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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:31 am to
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Why?
You arent interacting, you arent getting off your arse and having to be somewhere, and you arent truly accountable as all you do is open your computer and google answers if needed

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:32 am to
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To me it is when online


Get with the times, boomer.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:33 am to
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Get with the times, boomer
Online college for the entry level classes will mean everyone has As as long as they can work a computer.....
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:36 am to
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Online college for the entry level classes will mean everyone has As as long as they can work a computer.....


Do you understand how testing works?

Also list the differences. I can tell you my entry level classes had no real benefit over an online class with modern technology.

I don’t think outside of labs that online technology is not a huge benefit to the college level system. This assumes appropriate access to office hours and university resources for tutoring/study groups.

Does your employer allow people to have conference calls? Do you have groups that must work from a distance?
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:38 am to
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You arent interacting, you arent getting off your arse and having to be somewhere, and you arent truly accountable as all you do is open your computer and google answers if needed


Most online courses through brick and mortars require interaction with other classmates as a requirement for the week (usually in the form of discussion boards or group work). Lockdown browsers or proctored, in-person tests are often used for assessments in those courses. They often have more actual assignments to complete and turn in, to prove your continued engagement. Those assignments are usually turned in to a dropbox with programs like SafeAssign attached to check for plagiarism. And if you're in a graduate program that requires internships/practicum those are still completed as per usual.

I had far more "accountability" in online courses than sitting in a 300 person lecture hall with maybe 2-3 tests a semester as my "work".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112612 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:39 am to
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Lockdown browsers
Hope the students dont have magical i-phones
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:41 am to
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Hope the students dont have magical i-phones


But the tests do have time limits that require you to be able to quickly access the answers from your memory bank, that doesn't give you time to search.

Your shite take is just that. Just move on.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:42 am to
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quote:
Lockdown browsers
Hope the students dont have magical i-phones


Again you must not know anything about how it works.

There is also options for testing centers which would be the same system used on campuses already.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112612 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:42 am to
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Your shite take is just that. Just move on.
Nah, ill stay

zero respect for online degrees
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112612 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:43 am to
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There is also options for testing centers
Then why the frick are they not on campus?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:45 am to
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Again you must not know anything about how it works.


The funny thing is, brick and mortars will give you a regular degree that doesn't differentiate whether your courses were online or not. He's full of shite on a lot of what he's spewing.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23537 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:45 am to
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quote:
There is also options for testing centers
Then why the frick are they not on campus?


Imagine the savings and flexibility if all that was required in terms of a facility was the testing center. Imagine if it allowed the students more flexibility for their schedules.

The losers in all of this are small universities, administrators, and academics. Everyone else wins.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112612 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:48 am to
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The funny thing is, brick and mortars will give you a regular degree that doesn't differentiate whether your courses were online or not. He's full of shite on a lot of what he's spewing
College is more than sitting in front of a computer screen in bed

I would not and will not view someone who did their 4 years online only the same as someone who went to a traditional university

sorry that angers you
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:50 am to
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College is more than sitting in front of a computer screen in bed

I would not and will not view someone who did their 4 years online only the same as someone who went to a traditional university

sorry that angers you



It doesn't anger me. It just shows your ignorance in the matter.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23537 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:53 am to
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College is more than sitting in front of a computer screen in bed

I would not and will not view someone who did their 4 years online only the same as someone who went to a traditional university

sorry that angers you


What if it allowed people to get more real work experience while studying? That is the real experience I perceive you to want.

I still see the majority of college graduates having poor communication skills, interpersonal skills for a work environment, perspective, maturity, and work ethic outside of students that had real work experience/internships.

I do not view college substituting for the real work experience ever. It is a place to learn basic concepts of a field of study until you maybe enter graduate research as that is basically a work experience. I see that with some upper level lab classes also.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4638 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:23 am to
Lower tuition? Syracuse announced this week that tuition is going UP about 4% next year to $54k for students admitted after 2018. Now, they did announce a 7% increase in financial aid, but still it's pretty bold of them.

The Daily Orange
Central New York Business Journal

And don't forget the $54k is only for tuition. A student still has to eat and a place to stay.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 1:57 pm to
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I think there's some merit to it. None of these schools in CA that are closed through the fall semester will lower their prices despite not opening their facilities and the students are going to be pissed when they realize their tuition will remain the same or possibly even go up.




USC just raised their tuition 3.5& next year.
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