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re: Clay Travis issues challenge in response to Martin Luther Cream"s NFL boycott

Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:24 pm to
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The term racists is WAY overused it today's climate.
That's why I make sure I never use the word unless the dictionary definition of the word actually applies.
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:28 pm to
Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


This is the point that your missing I believe. Clay Travis is not saying his race is superior....so by the definition of the word I don't think your argument is 100% solid.

Clay is asking him to prove his race. Clay is not stating the fact that one race is better than another.
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:28 pm to
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That's why I make sure I never use the word unless the dictionary definition of the word actually applies.


See my next post.....you're not taking into account the true definition.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:30 pm to
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And none of this changes the truth that placing a $50,000 value on someone's race is racism.

I know you can't see the forest through the trees here.

He essentially built a career on fraud and exploitation of a false race claim. It literally has nothing to do with racism. This is is no different than Elizabeth Holmes defrauding investors over her fraudulent miracle blood test scheme.
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They always out themselves, it seems.

Ah, yes, the response of the troll and/or intellectually lazy. Carry on, sweetheart.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:32 pm to
Not the full definition. Definition 3 according to Webster:
quote:

: racial prejudice or discrimination
A "$50,000 if you're black enough" deal is exactly this.
Posted by DAbully
Syria
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:32 pm to
So a racist is offering give 50K to a black charity? I bet those charities wish there were more racist out there.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:33 pm to
I don't know why you think I give a shite about King's life story. You got triggered by the R word, and you're still shaking.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:33 pm to
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So a racist is offering give 50K to a black charity?
Not what I said.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:34 pm to
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And none of this changes the truth that placing a $50,000 value on someone's race is racism. It is tangible racial discrimination.


Unless it is a minority scholarship. Then it's cool.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I don't know why you think I give a shite about King's life story. You got triggered by the R word, and you're still shaking.

Troll shtick: confirmed (per usual)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:35 pm to
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placing a $50,000 value on someone's race is racism

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Unless it is a minority scholarship. Then it's cool.


Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:36 pm to
You're not triggered because I'm a troll. You're triggered because you're insecure about something. Not my problem.
Posted by DAbully
Syria
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Not what I said.


You said it is racist. I'm saying anyone offering to give 50k to a black charity and is racist only means there should be racist people around. World would be a better place with racist people is what you are saying. We all get that. You don't have to keep spelling it out.
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
893 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination



Pretty sure all of these hinge on the fact that the person being prejudice or discriminating believes their race to be better than the other.

I don't see how what Travis is doing as discrimination......

But when I read the exact definition of prejudice he could be seen as doing that....but its not racial in this case.....he is being prejudice against Shaun King....not the black race.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:37 pm to
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You said it is racist. I'm saying anyone offering to give 50k to a black charity and is racist only means there should be racist people around. World would be a better place with racist people is what you are saying. We all get that. You don't have to keep spelling it out.
Melt
Posted by DAbully
Syria
Member since Dec 2016
1028 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:38 pm to
I melted and you want more racist like Clay Travis as do I. We all win.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Pretty sure all of these hinge on the fact that the person being prejudice or discriminating believes their race to be better than the other.
Not what the dictionary says. I'm neither Asian nor black, but if I discriminated against one over the other, that is racism as defined in #3. I don't know why y'all are fighting this so much.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138918 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:40 pm to
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You're not triggered because I'm a troll. You're triggered because you're insecure about something. Not my problem.

Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
893 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Not what the dictionary says. I'm neither Asian nor black, but if I discriminated against one over the other, that is racism as defined in #3. I don't know why y'all are fighting this so much.



Im not fighting you on racism....Im disagreeing with your argument in this single situation.

The bolded part above states that you agree....racism is discrimination of one race over the other.....Travis is not arguing that any race is better than another race....


He is arguing the King isnt who he says he is.


Edit: Also, I believe you actually agreed with me when you said discriminating one over another....
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:41 pm to
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I melted and you want more racist like Clay Travis as do I. We all win.
Look, man. You've twice now made the error of not properly pluralizing a noun ending in -ist. There's only one type of dude who makes that type of error, and it's the type that gets made fun of by everyone else on the face of the planet, so if you ever wonder why I'm not taking you seriously anytime you say literally anything, now you know why.
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