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Cities getting rid of single-family zoning
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:36 am
How Minneapolis Freed Itself From the Stranglehold of Single-Family Homes - LINK
Oregon just effectively banned single-family zoning - LINK
I find this topic fascinating especially as cities get more expensive and exclusive. In some ways its the ultimate property rights argument....if I can meet all of the building codes and have enough open space and parking, and the use is still residential, why can't I add a mother-in-law apartment or an extra residential unit to my property.
That said, I can't think of too many places in Louisiana where this would be beneficial. I also disagree with the Oregon law, it should be left up to the individual cities.
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The city council approved the Minneapolis 2040 comprehensive plan, which declares the city’s intent to abolish single-family-home zoning and allow duplexes and triplexes to be built anywhere in the city.
Oregon just effectively banned single-family zoning - LINK
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The bill doesn’t directly ban single-family zoning, which limits a residential plot to only single-family detached houses. It legalizes duplexes in cities of more than 10,000, including the Portland metro area. In cities of more than 25,000 and within the Portland metro area, it would legalize triplexes, fourplexes, attached townhomes, and some “cottage clusters.” The bill leaves few towns in the state where single-family zoning is still operable.
I find this topic fascinating especially as cities get more expensive and exclusive. In some ways its the ultimate property rights argument....if I can meet all of the building codes and have enough open space and parking, and the use is still residential, why can't I add a mother-in-law apartment or an extra residential unit to my property.
That said, I can't think of too many places in Louisiana where this would be beneficial. I also disagree with the Oregon law, it should be left up to the individual cities.
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:37 am to NOLALGD
Great. Instead of 1 section 8 household on a lot we can have 3.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:37 am to NOLALGD
I'm fine with this because this:
Should be up to individual city councils/elected officials.
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its the ultimate property rights argument....if I can meet all of the building codes and have enough open space and parking, and the use is still residential, why can't I add a mother-in-law apartment or an extra residential unit to my property.
Should be up to individual city councils/elected officials.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:38 am to NOLALGD
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That said, I can't think of too many places in Louisiana where this would be beneficial.
Most states have a couple of good cities, Louisiana however....
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:38 am to NOLALGD
People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:39 am to TheCaterpillar
It should be up to the individual developers, as long as the infrastructure can support it
Cough *Ascension* cough
Cough *Ascension* cough
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:41 am to NOLALGD
It's definitely a (unfortunate) popular trend in Nashville.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:42 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
I disagree with this.
You shouldn't be able to buy a lot in a subdivision and build a giant office building that has no parking. Or build a strip club next door to family homes.
Zoning laws are often over-reaching and draconian, but in some cases they are very important.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:44 am to GentleJackJones
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It's definitely an (unfortunate) popular trend in Nashville.
Its a popular trend in every mid-major city that is blowing up.
Nashville is dropping 3 or 4 houses on single lots and still can't keep up with demand.
FTR, I live in a newly constructed townhome in a "gentrifying area"
. It has appreciated 30% in 2.5 years. So now I can use that equity to buy a big family house in the burbs.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:48 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
Really? How about someone build a cheap section 8 that's thug and drug infested right next door to your house?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:52 am to TheCaterpillar
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FTR, I live in a newly constructed townhome in a "gentrifying area" . It has appreciated 30% in 2.5 years. So now I can use that equity to buy a big family house in the burbs.
This is why in select cities with high growth rates, strong job markets, and good transit this should be an option.
Win for property owner, win for the new residents looking for housing, and win for the city with new tax revenue.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:54 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
Yeah, I’m sure you’d love an industrial facility right next to your SFR in your quite little subdivision
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:56 am to YouAre8Up
Really? How about someone build a cheap section 8 that's thug and drug infested right next door to your house?
Ideally the market takes care of this issue. Building something crappy would hurt your property value compared to your neighbors and you would still be paying higher property taxes, assuming assessments are accurate and up-to-date.
Ideally the market takes care of this issue. Building something crappy would hurt your property value compared to your neighbors and you would still be paying higher property taxes, assuming assessments are accurate and up-to-date.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:57 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
Are you a homeowner?
The city allowed an apartment complex on one of the nicest little streets in our small town. The street is a shithole now.
As cities ban areas zoned for single family dwellings, residents will simply move to areas where they aren't ban, or to subdivisions restricted to single family homes.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:58 am to NOLALGD
What if my 5 home neighborhood forms a HOA? That’ll show em...
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:09 am to NOLALGD
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Ideally the market takes care of this issue. Building something crappy would hurt your property value compared to your neighbors and you would still be paying higher property taxes, assuming assessments are accurate and up-to-date.
“Ideally” almost never happens in the real world.
An apartment developer doesn’t care about property values. They care about rental income and any developer who isn’t an idiot would love to throw up a complex in a nice neighborhood with close access to good schools, parks and shopping. They’d have a nearly 100% occupied cash cow while you try desperately to sell your house that no one else wants.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:30 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build
I'm sure you would like a strip club opening up next door to you.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:41 am to Oilfieldbiology
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It should be up to the individual developers, as long as the infrastructure can support it
The problem is determining if infrastructure can support it.
So many projects approved that have not been started. So who knows the impact to any or all of these projects when they are completed? We know current and what the single project may add. But, they are not keeping a running total of projects and what they will add.
The city/county is incentivized to approve due to tax revenue. Developer is incentivized to build due to profit.
Tax Payers/Residents have nothing. They would have to go get their own engineer for every approval and who can afford that? Then the city/county can still give them the middle finger.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:43 am to StupidBinder
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An apartment developer doesn’t care about property values.
The developers don't even live in the same city many times much less the same area of city. They don't care at all about property values for their projects.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to USMEagles
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People ought to be allowed to build whatever the eff they want to build.
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on this site.
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