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re: Chicago Police Shooting Video Released
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:36 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:36 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I don't think the punishment for that is death though.
I wouldn't say it's a punishment, but it could be a side effect
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:36 pm to bmy
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can you link something that supports this?
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bmy
:crickets:
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:37 pm to lsu480
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do you have any idea how many rounds an officer can discharge in 1 second?
4 for most issued / approved handguns.
ETA.. with a very proficiently trained officer and a little trigger pressure manipulation by your favorite armorer.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:37 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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The video corroborates "that lie."
If you think that video corroborates the initial police report then you're not watching the same video in the OP.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:37 pm to bmy
With a handgun????
I shoot a lot and I couldn't do that.
I shoot a lot and I couldn't do that.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:39 pm to Darth_Vader
He is brandishing a knife and turning towards the officers when he is shot. The video corroborates that.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:39 pm to bmy
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5-6, sorry. we're talking about a human bodyframe inside 20 feet. that's a huge target.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:39 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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watch it again? He clearly turns towards the cops with the knife in his hands.
No, that was AFTER the first shot which likely led to a reaction
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:41 pm to TheOcean
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Bootlickers are in full force. Even when we have a cop in the thread saying the shooting wasn't justified. I'm shocked.
and even when the cop's own chief said he broke every rule in protocol
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:41 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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He is brandishing a knife and turning towards the officers when he is shot. The video corroborates that.
You need to either get your eyes or your head examined if you really believe that bullshite you just posted. Might want to go ahead and get both looked at.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:42 pm to LSUTANGERINE
The chief HAS to say that so the thugs don't ruin the city more than they already have been and surely are going to after seeing one of their own get taken out by someone other than a gangbanger.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
LINK
Beginner shooters can, with moderate accuracy, fire 3 shots in a second handicapped by waiting on an auditory signal and a specific ruleset.
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FSRC’s 3-phase hit-probability study, which kicked off with field research last spring [6/06], is intended to document the speed and probable accuracy of assailants and officers trying to deliver sudden on-target rounds from various distances within the time frame of most OISs…to confirm which tactical options seem most likely to protect officers…and to determine what training systems seem most effective in increasing an officer’s ability to make fight-stopping hits, as well as imprinting other survival skills.
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Over 1/3 had “never fired a handgun and only a few had more than a passing exposure” to sidearms, thereby qualifying them, group-wise, as naïve shooters. “A lot said they were very apprehensive and nervous about shooting,” Avery said. “They were not predisposed to like it.”
Naïve shooters are important, Avery explained, “because they give us baseline data for human ability, without bias being introduced by training experience.”
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A strong majority of the shooters fired all 3 rounds within 1.5 seconds. That included reaction time in responding to the timer signal. Some were able to react and shoot all 3 shots within 1 second. A “very large majority” fired all 3 with about a quarter-second between shots. Some were longer, up to .35-.40.
An actual assailant who is deciding when to shoot without reacting to an auditory signal and who is likely bringing his gun out and up with his finger already on the trigger could be expected to get a first round off even faster than the volunteers, Avery said.
Beginner shooters can, with moderate accuracy, fire 3 shots in a second handicapped by waiting on an auditory signal and a specific ruleset.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:43 pm to SabiDojo
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If he wasn't on PCP then welp he's screwed
Does not matter. It's not like the police knew. It's not like they were in a scuffle and he could not be subdued in the scuffle because of drugs. The police report lie likely seals the deal. He will plea to manslaughter though.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:43 pm to LSUFAN2005
So why did only one cop discharge 16 bullets in this kid and no others...was he the only one who felt like his life was endangered...cop is a dumb frick and deserves what's coming
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:43 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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No, that was AFTER the first shot which likely led to a reaction
Damn, you're right. I'm wrong. WOW. That cop is fricked.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:43 pm to lsu480
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The chief HAS to say that so the thugs don't ruin the city more than they already have been and surely are going to after seeing one of their own get taken out by someone other than a gangbanger.
Of course. Of course.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:44 pm to bmy
So 3 in 1.5 seconds means maybe 2 in one second. Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:45 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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and even when the cop's own chief said he broke every rule in protocol
Yes, even after the first shot that shouldn't have been taken, the THREAT was STOPPED. He had a KNIFE not a FIREARM. There was no way the guy could threaten anyone with the knife while he was on the ground. 15 more shots, well we're dealing with a dangerous dumbass. I couldn't imagine this idiot backing me up in an entry / clearing situation, that's a definite NO, wouldn't trust this guy to sweep the floors inside the precint.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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You need to either get your eyes or your head examined if you really believe that bull shite you just posted. Might want to go ahead and get both looked at.
Yeah I am wrong. I didn't realize the first shot came before the kid makes the rapid movement before he goes down.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:46 pm to lsu480
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If you think the average cop can accurately fire 5-6 shots in the first second they start shooting at a moving target who is coming at them with a knife you have no clue what you are talking about.
with a weapon already aimed.. if he can't, he should be fired
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