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re: Cheapest Car Brands to Maintain long term according to Consumer Reports
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:28 pm to Hangover Haven
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:28 pm to Hangover Haven
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Just wait till the battery needs to be replaced in that Tesla.
I guess those Tesla owners are saving on oil changes?
They’re saving on 13 years of oil changes.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:28 pm to Hangover Haven
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Just wait till the battery needs to be replaced in that Tesla.
I guess those Tesla owners are saving on oil changes?
its not the $13k batteries that get you, its the $20k in man hours to disassemble and remove the body from the frame to replace it
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:34 pm to Eighteen
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The real thing is, no one knows the cost
Best guess for most financial modeling is about 3% reduction year over year. That’s what’s driving replacement reserve models atm. The biggest variable is that everyone (kbra) just accounts for a 100% replacement but they’re not taking into account the salvage value of the degraded unit. We should see a nice secondary market develop for those which will then even further lower the replacement cost.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 pm to Eighteen
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With how quickly the tech is advancing, 8 years is an eternity and the battery will probably be cheaper, lighter weight and go longer distance than the battery they have in today
Don't know if it's feasible to just throw a much lighter battery pack in. That would completely change the driving dynamics right?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 pm to North Dallas Tiger
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The funniest is the pure idiocy of the folks that buy used German vehicles with over 40k miles just to keep up with the Joneses.
They don’t seem to think about what will happen down the road.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:37 pm to sqerty
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Buick beat out Toyota?
Here was the explanation I was told by a service advisor about Buicks being so reliable. Old people drive Buicks. Old people don’t care if the iTunes app or other modern entertainment options work or not. They don’t care if the remote start does not work. They don’t care about the 16 way adjustable memory position seats work They don’t use those feature so they have no reported problems.
Younger people use all those features and bring it in for service when they don’t work or can’t get it to work. This adds to the service cost of the vehicles.
Similar to the Mercedes reliability issues from the past. They were putting in every imaginable stupid option and feature. There was just so much extra stuff to break compared to most other cars.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:02 pm to North Dallas Tiger
I have 180k on my TDI Jetta. Planning for at least another 200k and diesel prices are coming down now so can’t complain about my 40-50 mpg
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:10 pm to TN Tygah
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They’re saving on 13 years of oil changes.
Which is probably about $1500 for me over said 13 years.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:11 pm to Powerman
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With how quickly the tech is advancing, 8 years is an eternity and the battery will probably be cheaper, lighter weight and go longer distance than the battery they have in today
Nobody really believes this. EV battery will be no different than your laptop and iPhone.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
Surprisingly close on the top 20 or so when considering 10 years.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
I can vouch for the high cost for simple parts on the German stuff. Learned that lesson long ago.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:19 pm to lsuconnman
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Nobody really believes this. EV battery will be no different than your laptop and iPhone.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t believe this. Volumetric energy density has been steadily increasing and will continue to do so.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:28 pm to tiggerthetooth
Tesla … you’re joking, right ?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
This is really stupid..
I buy cars and keep them until I usually have the tow truck drive them to the dump so I am very aware of the difference in maintenance of the first ten years versus the second ten years..
They really need to not use years and do mileage..
I buy cars and keep them until I usually have the tow truck drive them to the dump so I am very aware of the difference in maintenance of the first ten years versus the second ten years..
They really need to not use years and do mileage..
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:21 pm to tiggerthetooth
Honda has fallen off. Behind Chevy and Ford
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:33 pm to lsuconnman
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Nobody really believes this. EV battery will be no different than your laptop and iPhone.
You don’t think the battery (both size and battery life) in the 2007 iPhone and the 2017 iPhone X were different?
nobody really knows what the true battery “replacement” costs will be in 8-10 years when the biggest batch of these Teslas start to reach degradation points.
battery tech advancements, number of places to do repairs, secondary markets for rebuilt batteries, will all be at play. but that unknown is a big “risk” in buying a Tesla or EV at this point, the depreciation and long term costs don’t have a lot of data points yet
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:53 pm to JAXTiger16
I want one sooo bad
Want a Jetta stationwagon swap a Audi all wheel drive drive train slap a 2” lift on it and it would be a road trip machine.
Thats a bucket list for me with an excursion, Cummins and Allison swap
Want a Jetta stationwagon swap a Audi all wheel drive drive train slap a 2” lift on it and it would be a road trip machine.
Thats a bucket list for me with an excursion, Cummins and Allison swap
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:55 pm to Eighteen
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You don’t think the battery (both size and battery life) in the 2007 iPhone and the 2017 iPhone X were different?
I’m not arguing they’re the same. I’m arguing nobody’s trying to retrofit old tech. When’s the last time your replaced the battery from something you bought in 2017? The idea can probably be tested pretty easily. What is the replacement cost for a Tesla roadster battery? After 15, years it should be cheaper now than 2010, right?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:02 pm to Tantal
quote:Or the older owner couldn't accurately recall how much they spent on maintenance and repairs.
That's because the 10 year old Buick only has 7,500 miles on it.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:09 pm to lsuconnman
EV batteries will degrade over time - I’m thinking I’ll be at 200 miles range after 10 years. The car will be junk before the battery is.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 11:10 pm
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