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re: Chase Bank tweets about personal responsibility; Reaction not positive

Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:41 am to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58380 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:41 am to
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They pocketed the interest


Who are the "they" that you are referring to here? I have several bank stocks in my investment portfolio, so I and millions of other are part of the "they".
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:42 am to
Some people find personal responsibility to be an offensive concept.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:42 am to
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Warren has made her living telling poor people that it's not their fault and the system is against them.


If you cant see how shes at least right in part, I dont know what to tell you. None of this excuses personal responsibility, but if you dont believe that banks knowingly and purposefully exploit the shite out of the poor, we cant really go any further.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262628 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:43 am to
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“I think you were misinformed,” Dimon said. “And I think that misinformation is leading to a lot of the problems we’re having today.

“JP Morgan took TARP because we were asked to by the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States of America. Put the FDIC in the room; the head of the New York Fed, Tim Geithner; chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke.

He added: “We did not, at that point, need TARP. We were asked to, because we were told, I think correctly so, that if the nine banks there, and some may have needed it, take this TARP, we can get it into all these other banks and stop the system from going down.”

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:44 am to
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Who are the "they" that you are referring to here? I have several bank stocks in my investment portfolio, so I and millions of other are part of the "they".


Yeah? Did they send you a cut of their bonus checks too that they got when they were swapping the mortgages around?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262628 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:44 am to
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If you cant see how shes at least right in part, I dont know what to tell you.


Everyone in this country has a way out of poverty.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:45 am to
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He added: “We did not, at that point, need TARP. 


Uhhh...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43439 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:45 am to
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but if you dont believe that banks knowingly and purposefully exploit the shite out of the poor,


How many poor do you think are running around with Chase bank accounts?

Here's a hint: the poor generally do not use banks
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:46 am to
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Everyone in this country has a way out of poverty. ?


They sure do. And they'd get there a hell of a lot quicker if they weren't getting screwed. You're not comprehending that this is not mutually exclusive.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67524 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:48 am to
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Reaction not positive

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Patton Oswalt

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Stephen King

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Elizabeth Warren

frick all 3 of these motherfrickers
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58380 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:48 am to
90% of the time the poor are getting screwed because of their own damn poor choices.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:51 am to
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90% of the time the poor are getting screwed because of their own damn poor choices. ?


They chose to be born poor? Come on man.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46644 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:54 am to
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Its like a lot of you cant comprehend that the banks knew these people wouldn't be able to pay their mortgages and still lent them the money because they had nothing to lose.


You are leaving out a very important fact. They were forced by the Federal Gov to make these loans.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:55 am to
They were absolutely not forced to make those loans. The banks tell the government what to do, not the other way around.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58380 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:57 am to
Of course they don’t choose to be born poor dumbass. They choose to make many poor choices to allow them to stay poor. And yes many of those choices involve piss poor money management decisions
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46644 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:00 am to
Community Reinvestment Act rules from Clinton era required banks to make loans to people with poor and nonexistent credit histories — Its goal was to increase home ownership.

I'm not saying they are 100% without fault but to think banks tell the government what to do and when to do it is
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:01 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43439 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:00 am to
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They were absolutely not forced to make those loans.




Idiot.

Posted by hans
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
52 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:02 am to
do you have a source for this?

Not saying you are wrong, but it was interesting to me so i googled it and saw 1 article on a pretty sketchy site.

If what you're saying is true, then Chase basically took a loan it didn't want from the government and then they repaid the government with interest of probably close to half of a billion dollars as was set out in the TARP program.

interesting indeed.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:04 am to
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I'm not saying they are 100% without fault but to think banks tell the government what to do and when to do it is ?


They must just finance all those campaigns out of a sense of patriotic duty then.

And surely it's pure coincidence that the revolving door exists between treasury and wall street.

No, it's not as blatant as they way I framed it. But come on, you really think they spend all that money lobbying without the intent on getting the government to do their bidding?

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell a lot of yall.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:06 am to
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Many subprime lenders were not subject to the CRA. Research indicates only 6% of high-cost loans—a proxy for subprime loans—had any connection to the law.


Idiot. Idiot, indeed.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 10:07 am
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