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re: Central AC is leaking freon...
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:55 pm to montrose
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:55 pm to montrose
If it's within 5 years it may be covered regardless of whether or not it was registered. I'd check on that one first--get the serial number and call an AC tech you can trust to get you some information.
EZ-Seal by Nu-Calgon isn't a terrible product--as a matter of fact when you have no other option it is pretty decent. However, as someone said it isn't a great idea to put in foreign additives. It may extend the life of the coil long enough until you no longer live in the home. Also, If you can bite the bullet, getting a jug of freon and replacing it yourself might be cheaper (depending on whether or not its R22 or R410A.)
FWIW please keep it mind that I'm just an AC salesman--not a tech--so take this with a grain of salt.
***ALSO you may want to consider cleaning the indoor and outdoor coils. It could be as simple as not getting enough airflow.
EZ-Seal by Nu-Calgon isn't a terrible product--as a matter of fact when you have no other option it is pretty decent. However, as someone said it isn't a great idea to put in foreign additives. It may extend the life of the coil long enough until you no longer live in the home. Also, If you can bite the bullet, getting a jug of freon and replacing it yourself might be cheaper (depending on whether or not its R22 or R410A.)
FWIW please keep it mind that I'm just an AC salesman--not a tech--so take this with a grain of salt.
***ALSO you may want to consider cleaning the indoor and outdoor coils. It could be as simple as not getting enough airflow.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 7:57 pm
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:13 pm to Roger Klotz
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Also, If you can bite the bullet, getting a jug of freon and replacing it yourself might be cheaper (depending on whether or not its R22 or R410A.)
gotta have some special training and permit to buy this, right?...
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:31 pm to Croacka
I have to add about a pound every two years, but this year I had to add 2. I suspect it's the evap coil. I have a 10 year old unit.
The A/C is not bad enough to worry about yet, but I do want to consider upgrading to a gas furnace. My electric bills has been eating me alive every Nov-Feb. I want to ditch the electric heat pump or at least have a dual setup. That's going to be a big project and I'm not ready to commit until I am more confident that I'll be here another 7-10+ years.
As far as the A/C....the R22 freon is not getting any cheaper, but the 5 ton unit that I have works very well when charged. I don't know anyone local who will sell R22 to me without a license.
The A/C is not bad enough to worry about yet, but I do want to consider upgrading to a gas furnace. My electric bills has been eating me alive every Nov-Feb. I want to ditch the electric heat pump or at least have a dual setup. That's going to be a big project and I'm not ready to commit until I am more confident that I'll be here another 7-10+ years.
As far as the A/C....the R22 freon is not getting any cheaper, but the 5 ton unit that I have works very well when charged. I don't know anyone local who will sell R22 to me without a license.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:33 pm to Spankum
Those sealants react with moisture so if you have any moisture in your system it will lock the compressor up. A 30 pound cylinder is about $250 and would last a while if you already have the gauges and know how to charge it. I think your best bet is to get it charged, find the leak and get it fixed or replaced in the fall. The new puron systems are more efficient anyway.
If you are feeling dangerous and lucky, try the leak seal or buy some r-22 substitute and a set of gauges.
Cliplight makes a new product that is SUPPOSED to avoid the pitfalls of the old sealants but I've never known anyone to use it.
LINK
If you are feeling dangerous and lucky, try the leak seal or buy some r-22 substitute and a set of gauges.
Cliplight makes a new product that is SUPPOSED to avoid the pitfalls of the old sealants but I've never known anyone to use it.
LINK
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:47 pm to Croacka
Try AC Leak Freeze. It's similar to the Easy Seal except it doesn't react with moisture. Either way. I think it's only sold by dealers though.
I agree with the other posters. It's almost always the evap coil.
I agree with the other posters. It's almost always the evap coil.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:51 pm to Alright
Well shite
I don't know what the hell to do now
I expect to be out of this house in the next 4-5 years
I hate to replace a 5 year old unit, but this goodman crap is garbage, at least in my limited experience
I don't know what the hell to do now
I expect to be out of this house in the next 4-5 years
I hate to replace a 5 year old unit, but this goodman crap is garbage, at least in my limited experience
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:52 pm to Croacka
At the very least, an upgraded, newer AC won't hurt you when you sell your house.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:53 pm to CaptainsWafer
Yeah, but I'm not gonna get a great ROI on it either
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:00 pm to Croacka
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I don't know what the hell to do now I expect to be out of this house in the next 4-5 years I hate to replace a 5 year old unit, but this goodman crap is garbage, at least in my limited experience
I wouldn't replace the unit if you are only gonna be there for that short a period...honestly, I'd bet 80% of the spec houses in the country have goodman units in them...
first, if you haven't already done it, I would get an AC tech to look for any obvious leaks...may be as simple as a joint in the pipe that needs to be redone...
if you can't get it fixed, I would compare the annual cost of recharge to the annual cost of a home warranty (which I am thinking would be about $650 with two annual recharges) and opt for whatever is cheaper...
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:01 pm to Spankum
Technically you aren't supposed to be able to purchase refrigerant without a refrigerant certificate, but usually a supply house will sell if you've got the money.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:01 pm to Croacka
While that is true, have you figured out what it would cost to fix the leak? In this thread, I mean.
ETA just walked outside and looked at mine........son of a bitch.
ETA just walked outside and looked at mine........son of a bitch.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:14 pm to CaptainsWafer
I believe it's probably the indoor coil since it was built in 2008, which are the model years they are being sued for
Parts and labor for replacement is probably about 1000
I can get it recharged for 150 bucks from a repairman, but if I have to do it more than once a year, the cost vs convenience of not having to worry about it comes in to play
Parts and labor for replacement is probably about 1000
I can get it recharged for 150 bucks from a repairman, but if I have to do it more than once a year, the cost vs convenience of not having to worry about it comes in to play
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:16 pm to Croacka
What will the new unit cost vs how long you plan on staying?
Having to get it recharged 2x per year at this point, correct?
Having to get it recharged 2x per year at this point, correct?
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:17 pm to CaptainsWafer
That I don't know
I've repaired something on this unit at least once a year
I've been through 2 gas valves on the furnace, 2 capacitors on the AC, multiple recharges, and a control board on the furnace....all in 5 years
Yeah...not a fan of goodman at all
I've repaired something on this unit at least once a year
I've been through 2 gas valves on the furnace, 2 capacitors on the AC, multiple recharges, and a control board on the furnace....all in 5 years
Yeah...not a fan of goodman at all
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:18 pm to Croacka
Dang, that doesn't give me much confidence in mine, and it's only 7 mos old.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:19 pm to CaptainsWafer
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Having to get it recharged 2x per year at this point, correct?
Not sure, I had a family friend do a recharge on it with some freon he had (he's a former tech) about a month ago, and already my house won't get below 76 in the mid afternoon, so something has to be done
Maybe he didn't recharge it correctly, first time I let him do it as opposed to calling a tech
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:20 pm to CaptainsWafer
As someone said earlier, hopefully you registered it, which will extend the warranty on parts to 10 years (if they still operate this way)
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:21 pm to Croacka
How do I register?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:23 pm to CaptainsWafer
Is it a goodman?
I think it was on their website, but it had to be done within 60 days or some shite, so not sure about now
Maybe your installer registered it for you, but I wouldn't count on it
I think it was on their website, but it had to be done within 60 days or some shite, so not sure about now
Maybe your installer registered it for you, but I wouldn't count on it
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:27 pm to Croacka
Yea it's a goodman, and not John either.
Bought the house new, so who knows.
Bought the house new, so who knows.
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