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re: CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:47 am to Texaggie96
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:47 am to Texaggie96
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You're the one making a deal out of it.
Because i read the article, thus my commenting on the subject of the OP is proper.
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:48 am to lsupride87
Is it possible that the same hypochondriasis that "long COVID" sufferers experience could be attributed to those who "experience complications" after the vax? 
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:51 am to Texaggie96
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My comment was about how calling it the "jab" is childish and reduces the potential audience who looks at it as a political article written by an angsty teenager or conspiracy kook.
I can see your point in this, but what article doesn't have some sort of agenda? If this is a problem for you, everything you read will be a "waste of your time" or look like a conspiracy to you. With that said, that does not dispute the facts of the article. Do these facts represent something important? That's for you to decide.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:52 am to SaintEB
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I mean, don't. But you can't discredit the entire article because of what you think the site is, that this came from, or that you saw one buzzword that you didn't like. Climb that ladder or stay in your zone. Either way, it has no effect on me.
I certainly can. If a kid walks up to me and says 'Bro, let me give you some l33t financial advice, I got the 411 baw!'. That conversation is over before it started.
If you want to get medical advice from a conspiracy site, go right ahead. I've seen people make worse decisions in their life. :)
But here's the deal, why does the "Anti-vax" contingent feel the need to white knight this shite? Personally, I think it's people who were forced to vaccinate to keep their jobs, because they couldn't get a different one are all pissed at the world and finding any nugget of bad information on it seems to be the cause du jour.
If the article or author was truly interested in providing information, they'd write it like an adult for starters. Then they should include the pros and cons and site information so the reader can make an informed decision and check relevant facts. I can tell you w/o even reading the article that the agenda of that article isn't intended to be balanced.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:56 am to BugAC
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Because i read the article, thus my commenting on the subject of the OP is proper.
So did I. Then I actually downloaded the data and looked at it myself.
And it reveals just how poor self reported data can be.
For instance, there are several reports of "severe fever" and then they report a high fever of 99. I don't know about you, but I don't even consider 99 to be a fever. But that is the subjective nature of these self reporting studies.
Myocarditis has to be medically diagnosed. Why would they include that in a self reporting app? All of the "check-ins" are easily identified symptoms like fever, swelling, fatigue, etc.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:57 am to BugAC
Wild to think anyone believed these guys and Fauci
Could you imagine being that much of a loser in life
Could you imagine being that much of a loser in life
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:59 am to Salmon
I know its anecdotal
But at at this point I know hundreds if not thousands of people that are vaccinated
None have had significant adverse effects
Im sure there are people out there but its not nearly as common as Strannix wants it to be
That being said there is no reason for any healthy person under 70 to get the vaccine at this point because omicron is so mild
But at at this point I know hundreds if not thousands of people that are vaccinated
None have had significant adverse effects
Im sure there are people out there but its not nearly as common as Strannix wants it to be
That being said there is no reason for any healthy person under 70 to get the vaccine at this point because omicron is so mild
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:01 am to loogaroo
I'm became a mud blood last November. I work offshore and decided to keep my job. Completely regret it now. Been to the ER twice, from offshore, my NPT, cardiologist did cardiogram and several EKG's and blood work. Everything says there's nothing wrong with me. I am dizzy all the time, palpitations most days and fatigue. It's a rollercoaster. Some days feel good some like shite. They put me on Zoloft and beta blocker saying its anxiety or stress. Still taking these meds with out much success. Really tired of feeling like this. My family Dr. say there isn't enough data to accurately diagnose if it's because of Covid or the jab.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:01 am to Texaggie96
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I certainly can. If a kid walks up to me and says 'Bro, let me give you some l33t financial advice, I got the 411 baw!'. That conversation is over before it started.
False equivalency. The article is not telling you get shot or not.
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If you want to get medical advice from a conspiracy site, go right ahead. I've seen people make worse decisions in their life. :)
I do not recommend getting medical advice from any article, conspiracy site or not. I don't think anyone with a functioning brain is.
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But here's the deal, why does the "Anti-vax" contingent feel the need to white knight this shite? Personally, I think it's people who were forced to vaccinate to keep their jobs, because they couldn't get a different one are all pissed at the world and finding any nugget of bad information on it seems to be the cause du jour.
I am vaccinated. I don't care because my doctor recommended it and I trust him. I now have questions about myocarditis because of information like this. I will ask him, not a message board. This is just data. Use it how you will.
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If the article or author was truly interested in providing information, they'd write it like an adult for starters. Then they should include the pros and cons and site information so the reader can make an informed decision and check relevant facts. I can tell you w/o even reading the article that the agenda of that article isn't intended to be balanced.
You should read it then, because they make no assumptions about anything. Its data and what someone else said about the data. They requested CDC to answer a question about why the data wasn't available sooner but received no answer.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:03 am to Texaggie96
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I'll be honest. It's hard to take any "news" article seriously that calls the COVID vaccine, "the jab". It's like angsty teenagers are writing this stuff.
I will also be honest. I find any article or ad calling the covid vaccine, the covid vaccine, hard to take seriously. It makes me cringe now when I hear an ad saying the best way to protect yourself is to get the covid vaccine and stay up to date on boosters. Like wtf, are people hearing this and following through with it? How many boosters are they up to? Where is the data that suports the concept of that? It's sickening. Then you see data in OP, not the data about the initial adult recipients as that is one thing, but the data about the children. I'm more disappointed knowing that there are parents having this shite put into their children. That's just another level of stupidity. We knew it was bad for healthy adults to get this and entirely unnecessary, knew 1000% that it was unnecessary for young people and children, yet people pushed it on their kids anyways. I don't wish harm to those children, but those parents with children having issues with it got what they deserved and should have their children taken away from them.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:04 am to Potchafa
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I'm became a mud blood last November. I work offshore and decided to keep my job. Completely regret it now. Been to the ER twice, from offshore, my NPT, cardiologist did cardiogram and several EKG's and blood work. Everything says there's nothing wrong with me. I am dizzy all the time, palpitations most days and fatigue. It's a rollercoaster. Some days feel good some like shite. They put me on Zoloft and beta blocker saying its anxiety or stress. Still taking these meds with out much success. Really tired of feeling like this. My family Dr. say there isn't enough data to accurately diagnose if it's because of Covid or the jab.
I can't tell if this is real or a very well crafted troll.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:04 am to Texaggie96
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If you want to get medical advice from a conspiracy site, go right ahead.
Why is it a "conspiracy site"?
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Personally, I think it's people who were forced to vaccinate to keep their jobs, because they couldn't get a different one are all pissed at the world and finding any nugget of bad information on it seems to be the cause du jour.
The "any nugget" is CDC data.
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If the article or author was truly interested in providing information, they'd write it like an adult for starters.
They did. You didn't read it, so you don't know.
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Then they should include the pros and cons and site information so the reader can make an informed decision and check relevant facts.
They provided links to the court order, and the statistical analysis of the data released by the CDC all in that article, with easy to click links to see the data.
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I can tell you w/o even reading the article that the agenda of that article isn't intended to be balanced.
Well, ICAN had to sue the fricking CDC to get the V-safe data from them, because the CDC would not release it. The CDC WORKS FOR YOU! Now, a normal person would find it odd that the CDC would not release relevant data about the safety of an "emergency issue" vaccine that, in some cases, were mandated by local and state governments, and almost mandated by the US Federal government if not for the courts stopping such an unconstitutional mandate.
Here's the thing, Texaggie96, we know why you won't read it. We know why you won't acknowledge the factual nature of the court order or data released. You are a follower of the CDC. They issue proclamations, and you follow it without question because of "experts". These are the same experts just like the FDA, that unequivocally told people not to take Ivermectin, but now are claiming they never told anyone not to take ivermectin.
So can you stop with the charade? We know your position. You will never believe anything that paints the CDC/FDA/DHHS/etc... in a bad way because it goes against your core beliefs in the vaccine. Everyone knows it, stop pretending your just some middle of the road objector just sticking up for "the facts" when you refuse to read the facts that goes against your opinions.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:06 am to Salmon
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Why would they include that in a self reporting app?
After visits with a medical professional?
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:06 am to idontyield
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If the vaccine is causing all these issues, why do I not know a single person with these issues? Almost everyone I know got the vaccine and second shot. Several folks I work with have gotten boosters this year. None seem to be having health complications
By your standards, I don’t personally know anyone who died due to Covid. So Covid is not responsible for any deaths
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:08 am to BootupAstro
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By your standards, I don’t personally know anyone who died due to Covid. So Covid does not exist.
You got this wrong. You don't know anyone who died of Covid so Covid kills no one.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:09 am to BootupAstro
quote:Correct. Which is a good standard to show covid isn’t “extrmely deadly”
By your standards, I don’t personally know anyone who died due to Covid.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:09 am to BugAC
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After visits with a medical professional?
these would be reported under VAERS by your medical professional
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:09 am to SaintEB
Yeah you beat me to my edit.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:10 am to Ingeniero
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I can't tell if this is real or a very well crafted troll.
The reaction to the MRNA vaccine undisputedly killed a young man in Ponchatoula, I wouldn't dismiss a guy with a bunch of adverse effects as troll.
I've seen some really bizarre adverse effects.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:10 am to Salmon
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these would be reported under VAERS by your medical professional
Are you suggesting that if a symptom is reported under VAERS, it also cannot be reported in the V-safe system?
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