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CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys

Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30644 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:20 am
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Data released under court order shows 1 in 3 among earliest populations to get vaccinated reported needing medical care, missing school or work, or inability to "perform normal daily activities." CDC still fighting to keep v-safe "free-text field data" secret.


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The earliest demographics to get COVID-19 vaccines, such as healthcare workers, reported a surprisingly high rate of serious complications from them, according to data the CDC turned over under court order.

Among the 10 million-plus users of the agency's v-safe active monitoring smartphone app through July — 8.5 million of whom signed up between December 2020 and April 2021, before all adults were eligible for COVID vaccines — nearly 8% said they required medical care after receiving the vaccines.

For patients ages 3 and older needing such care, nearly 3 in 4 couldn't rely on telehealth visits. They required urgent care (48%), emergency room (15%) or hospitalization (10%). For infants, who were authorized to receive the jabs this summer and are enrolled in v-safe through parents or guardians, hospitalizations were much lower (2%) but urgent care much higher (66%).

Another 12% of v-safe users reported they were unable to perform normal daily activities, and 13% said they missed work or school, meaning 1 in 3 had more than mild adverse reactions.


https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/premeditated-cdc-knew-covid-vax-associated-myocarditis-left-post-vax-surveys
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:22 am to
The masked covidians are not gonna like this.

ETA: not that the vaccine is harmful part. But that the data is being released that shows it is harmful.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6533 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:22 am to
And no one will go to jail or lose all the money that was stolen
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:23 am to
I'll be honest. It's hard to take any "news" article seriously that calls the COVID vaccine, "the jab". It's like angsty teenagers are writing this stuff.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22728 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:26 am to
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I'll be honest. It's hard to take any "news" article seriously that calls the COVID vaccine, "the jab". It's like angsty teenagers are writing this stuff.



Do you dispute the data presented? If not, then what they call it should not matter.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:28 am to
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Do you dispute the data presented? If not, then what they call it should not matter.



How dare you suggest he read the article!!!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:30 am to
I read the article. The data presented is from anonymous entries to a phone app anyone could send in. People can make of that what they will

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Among the 10 million-plus users of the agency's v-safe active monitoring smartphone app through July — 8.5 million of whom signed up between December 2020 and April 2021, before all adults were eligible for COVID vaccines — nearly 8% said they required medical care after receiving the vaccines.


It says in the article a guy named strannix had 15,000 entries in the app
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:34 am to
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I read the article


Did you?

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The data presented is from anonymous entries to a phone app anyone could send in.


The data is from the CDC and their V-safe reporting tool that ICAN network received via a FOIA order from the court.

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The v-safe data obtained thus far are posted by the Informed Consent Action Network as both interactive graphs and several gigabytes of files. It got them through ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation against the CDC.

Those are just the data the CDC affirmatively sought through checkboxes on v-safe surveys, which are sent to users daily for the first week after each dose, then weekly for 6 weeks and 3, 6 and 12 months after the final dose.

It took a year and a half to get "five excel files which likely took the CDC minutes to download and produce," ICAN said in its portion of the Nov. 4 joint status report filed with the court.


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It says in the article a guy named strannix had 15,000 entries in the app



No, it does not.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:34 am to
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Do you dispute the data presented? If not, then what they call it should not matter.


Explain to me why I should read an article with a clear cut agenda. I don't have the time to cross-check all the information from an article like that, it's simply a waste of my time.

I certainly don't go to political news sites to get medical information. Reasonable people will research any medical treatment on their own, and consult with a trusted doctor or medical professional. Then make the decision for themselves. I'm 49, in good health, and the risk factor for me was negligible, so I didn't vaccinate. My parents chose too because they were in a high risk group and in poor health.

But yeah, You go trust a message board quoting a conspiratorial news site on a life or death decision for sure.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25469 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:35 am to
All the sheep on this board that blindly got the vax will say this is baaaaaaaaad info
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:37 am to
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The data is from the CDC and their V-safe reporting too
And that tool is simply an app on smartphones where people can enter anything.

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No, it does not.
Nothing gets by you
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:38 am to
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Explain to me why I should read an article with a clear cut agenda.


Well if you're not gonna read it, nor any of the factual data contained within the article, why are you commenting?

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I certainly don't go to political news sites to get medical information.


Feel free to read the signed court order, and the relevant files released to ICAN. You may not like the source but you can't dispute the facts:

1) ICAN sued the CDC via the Freedom of Information Act, to release V-SAFE data for review.
2) CDC released some data to ICAN.
3) ICAN released the CDC data to the public.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4171 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:40 am to
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And no one will go to jail or lose all the money that was stolen


And they shouldn’t. They should be stripped of their entire wealth and then hung for crimes against humanity. They are no better than the nazi’s experimenting on the Jews.

And to those down voting me, I don’t need an article to see how the vaccine gave my dad myocarditis a few days after his 2nd shot. Go ahead and explain to me how it was just a coincidence.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 9:45 am
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:42 am to
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Another 12% of v-safe users reported they were unable to perform normal daily activities, and 13% said they missed work or school, meaning 1 in 3 had more than mild adverse reactions.



I signed up for the app after I got the vaccine. I missed a day of work after the second shot cause of a mild fever and body aches. Which I knew was my immune system reacting to the vaccine (I’ve had similar reactions to multiple other vaccines I’ve had to get for travel, work, etc). I was totally fine within 2 days of second dose. Never had a single issue since.

Per the app survey questions ….I put I wasn’t able to perform normal activities and missed a day of work.
Posted by idontyield
Tunnel Trash
Member since Jun 2022
332 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:42 am to
If the vaccine is causing all these issues, why do I not know a single person with these issues? Almost everyone I know got the vaccine and second shot. Several folks I work with have gotten boosters this year. None seem to be having health complications.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95197 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:45 am to
Here is another survey

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Nearly One in Five American Adults Who Have Had COVID-19 Still Have “Long COVID”
New data from the Household Pulse Survey show that more than 40% of adults in the United States reported having COVID-19 in the past, and nearly one in five of those (19%) are currently still having symptoms of “long COVID.”

The data were collected from June 1-June 13 by the U.S. Census Bureau and analyzed by CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). The Household Pulse Survey is an ongoing partnership between the Census Bureau, and CDC and other federal agencies. NCHS recently added questions to the survey to assess the prevalence of post-COVID-19 conditions, sometimes called “long COVID.”


I don’t know where all these people are suffering from long covid either becasue I just don’t see it
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 9:46 am
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22728 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:45 am to
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Explain to me why I should read an article with a clear cut agenda. I don't have the time to cross-check all the information from an article like that, it's simply a waste of my time.



I mean, don't. But you can't discredit the entire article because of what you think the site is, that this came from, or that you saw one buzzword that you didn't like. Climb that ladder or stay in your zone. Either way, it has no effect on me.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:45 am to
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And that tool is simply an app on smartphones where people can enter anything.


Ok, then why the hold up, and why was a court order needed for the CDC to release this user information?

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It took a year and a half to get "five excel files which likely took the CDC minutes to download and produce," ICAN said in its portion of the Nov. 4 joint status report filed with the court.


And if V-safe is not useful to garner relevant information, why does the CDC use it support its recommendations for Covid 19 vaccinations?

Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:45 am to
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Well if you're not gonna read it, nor any of the factual data contained within the article, why are you commenting?


My comment was about how calling it the "jab" is childish and reduces the potential audience who looks at it as a political article written by an angsty teenager or conspiracy kook.

You're the one making a deal out of it.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:46 am to
mRNA vaccines suck arse and that's why none ever made it past trials, much less were frickin mandated.
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