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re: Cavalry or Calvary

Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Baez fricked it up in 1971 in her cover of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down


She also said “there goes Robert E Lee” when the correct line is “there goes The Robert E Lee.”

And it’s “Stoneman’s Cavalry”, not “so much Calvary”
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:00 pm to
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Baez fricked it up in 1971 in her cover of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
I don't recall that

IIRC she does say "There goes the Robert E. Lee", as if referring to a riverboat, rather than the CSA general.

I've sometimes wondered if that was intentional.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:01 pm to
You’ve got it backwards I think
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:01 pm to
I heard an old, old story
How a Savior came from glory
How he gave his life on Cavalry
To save a wretch like me
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:02 pm to
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I don't recall that
fr33's right

She says "so much Calvary"
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:04 pm to
"If you ain't Cav..."

Go on.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

You’ve got it backwards I think
no you do

I just listened to her version
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:09 pm to
I don't believe you

>

She says it around this part. She says "so much Calvary"

I know The Band version well enough plus they wrote it
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:11 pm to


I'm talking about "the Robert E. Lee"
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:11 pm to
No, you do.

Joan Baez

quote:

Back with my wife in Tennessee
And one day she said to me
"Virgil, quick! Come see
There goes Robert E. Lee"


The Band

quote:


Back with my wife in Tennessee
And one day she said to me
"Virgil, quick! Come see
There goes the Robert E. Lee"
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:14 pm to
Joan Baez learned the song by listening to the Band.

She didn’t know what Stoneman’s cavalry was, and not being well versed in military history, heard it as “so much cavalry.”

And she didn’t realize that “the Robert E Lee” was a vessel, and therefore thought they were talking about the general himself.

Posted by pussywillows
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:15 pm to
How about instead of doing a lyrics search, you actually listen to the song...she does say "the Robert E. Lee"

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

No, you do.

Joan Baez

quote:
Back with my wife in Tennessee
And one day she said to me
"Virgil, quick! Come see
There goes Robert E. Lee"
1:25

Joan Baez

She clearly says "the"
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:16 pm to
Oh. well shite

There's no 'the' in any The Band version I've heard
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:18 pm
Posted by TTU97NI
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:18 pm to
The more you know. Horse and Jesus.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:19 pm to
You motherfrickers will argue about anything.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

She clearly says "the"


I don’t know if I’d call it “clearly”.

There’s a slight extra sound after the sibilant on the end of “goes”. It’s not as pronounced like in the band’s version. Which admittedly isn’t very vocalized either

The Band Does voice it though, barely. I’ve heard live versions by Baez where the “the” is definitely absent.

I’m telling you, when she originally did it she didn’t know “the Robert E Lee” was a vessel, which would make sense. Same with “so much cavalry.”

This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 12:04 am
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

It’s not pronounced like in the band’s version.
WHAT

Go listen to it now.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:25 pm to
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You motherfrickers will argue about anything.



Not anything.
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