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re: Cashier wouldn't let me buy a gift card at the grocery store with a credit card

Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:58 pm to
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I know that it is a loophole.


How is it a loophole? There is no loophole. You get 6% at grocery stores. Grocery stores sell gift cards. So you should get 6% on that.

The only (correct) answer here is:

1) Fraud
2) Stores lose money on selling you GCs. They have to pay AmEx (and DC) 3% of each transaction. (2% for VISA and MC) When loading/buying GC - say you bought a $500 gift card, the vendor is paying $15 for that transaction while only getting a % of the $3.95-$5.95 activation fee. For vendor gift cards the store may not even get that much. The gift card aisle is completely 3rd party. The 3rd party only pays the vendor for the rights to stock their GCs in their store and maybe a small % or fixed cost to process their transactions. In short: Huge loss for vendors. Gift cards are meant to be loss leaders for grocery stores. When the loss on selling GCs starts becoming significantly high, store manager will stop allowing credit cards for purchases. This is why the no CC policy is usually not hard coded at the register.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81324 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
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I just never heard of a store refusing the transaction before.


I haven't had it happen to me, but we refused credit cards for gift cards when I worked at Winn Dixie when I was 16.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35699 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:27 pm to
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What retailers? When?

I bought gift cards at Christmas this year from the typical places and never had anyone tell me I couldn't pay with credit.


He's talking about gift cards that can be converted to cash. Big difference.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:27 pm to
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I get 6% cash back


Which card if you don't mind me asking.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35699 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:29 pm to
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MontyFranklyn


This thread seems to be above your pay grade.
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:36 pm to
Should be the AmEx EDP (EveryDay Preferred)
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17249 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:54 pm to
A lot of places are cutting back on that because of credit card rewards. I know a guy who would put a few thousand dollars a week on a target gift(debit) card. He would then withdraw the money and use it to pay back the credit card. Was getting thousands of airline miles.
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:57 pm to
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A lot of places are cutting back on that because of credit card rewards


Incorrect. Stores could care less about CC rewards.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Incorrect. Stores could care less about CC rewards.
I think what he means is that they have gotten wise to what the purchaser is really trying to accomplish.
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:03 pm to
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I think what he means is that they have gotten wise to what the purchaser is really trying to accomplish.


And? You think the stores were like - "Oh so you are getting free airline miles for buying GCs? No more airline miles for you" ?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:18 pm to
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And? You think the stores were like - "Oh so you are getting free airline miles for buying GCs? No more airline miles for you" ?
No, but as someone pointed out earlier could end up losing money
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:20 pm to
How does the store lose money if the buyer is making airline miles? Store would lose money because store is paying into the card + fees and getting back no profits. Airline miles have nothing to do with that aspect.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:49 pm to
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:50 pm to
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Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:00 pm to
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Is there something I'm missing here?


It's an anti-fraud measure that some (through not all) vendors do.

Think about it - you steal someone's credit card and immediately run into store X and buy a shitton of Visa giftcards. Those are untraceable.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17249 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:01 pm to
My Delta Amex literally will not allow me to buy gift cards. It get's declined. My AA Mastercard allows it.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:05 pm to
Are you near a Publix grocery store? Periodically, they advertise $50 gas cards for $40 with a $50 grocery purchase. That is 20% off!!!

They will not allow me to buy the gas gift card with another gift card.

Your cashier got gift card confused with credit card......
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:05 pm to
I was told that too

only cash for gift cards, no credit
Posted by AmeriKop45
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Your cashier got gift card confused with credit card......


I doubt that

quote:

They will not allow me to buy the gas gift card with another gift card.


Ofcourse not.

quote:

I was told that too

only cash for gift cards, no credit


Find another store.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 4:08 pm
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