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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:44 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Wrong on both counts. If the treadmill is going in the opposite direction it has zero ground speed and thus zero airspeed. No air is flowing over the wings since the plane is stationary in space (even though the wheels are turning), so no lift, so no flight.
And again, this was already done.
A belt whose speed exceeded the plane’s velocity didn’t pull the plane back
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:44 pm to Volvagia
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Oh, you can go right to hell right here.
Found another one! Why are engineers egos so fragile?
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:44 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
because you will exceed the speed of the belt?
Just like the plane would in this scenario.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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Not wasting another second on your dumb arse.
You just can't stop proving my point, can you? If you guys had dicks half the size of your egos, you'd be porn stars.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:46 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:
Wrong on both counts. If the treadmill is going in the opposite direction it has zero ground speed and thus zero airspeed. No air is flowing over the wings since the plane is stationary in space (even though the wheels are turning), so no lift, so no flight.
You're absolutely right, but don't even try... I'm amazed at the level of stupidly in this thread from people who I thought were intelligent and had a basic knowledge of aerodynamics.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:46 pm to TD422
Not at all. But congrats on you showing another angle of you making assumptions and redefining the world on them.
I wasn’t defending his credentials as an engineer. Just attacking your shitty logic. And even when pointed out to you, you still didn’t connect his meationing his career was related to you mentioning yours.
I wasn’t defending his credentials as an engineer. Just attacking your shitty logic. And even when pointed out to you, you still didn’t connect his meationing his career was related to you mentioning yours.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:48 pm to JDPndahizzy
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You're absolutely right
He's not absolutely right. You assumed the treadmill is stationary. If that sounds stupid, it wasn't an accident.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:48 pm to TD422
BTW, I like how you deflected a question you couldn’t make up an answer to with a question to made to someone else some other time.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:50 pm to Volvagia
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you still didn’t connect his meationing his career was related to you mentioning yours.
WHAT? Where did I attack him for mentioning his career? I ASKED HIM WHAT HE DID FOR A LIVING. Now who has shitty logic?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:52 pm to meansonny
quote:Oh...wow.
Planes can fly with wheels not moving at all because the thrust of the engine is on the atmosphere (no trust to the wheels).
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:53 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Can you expand on this a bit? Pretty sure this is where your side is very confused.
No it won't because the force of the treadmill will not be applied on the plane in such a way that would cancel out the force of thrust.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:55 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Oh...wow.
Oh wow what? What did he say that is wrong?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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You assumed the treadmill is stationary. If that sounds stupid, it wasn't an accident.
Of course I assumed it was stationary.. I've never seen a treadmill or conveyor belt not stationary..
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:57 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Flying due to thrust.
Oh wow what? What did he say that is wrong?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:58 pm to AlxTgr
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Can you expand on this a bit?
Sure, A plane does not move by transmitting power from the engine through the wheels. The wheels are only there for vertical support so that the belly of teh plane is not messed up while taking off. Because no power is transmitted to the wheels, no force from teh treadmill would be transmitted to the plane.
quote:
Pretty sure this is where your side is very confused.
"My side" isn't confused at all.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:59 pm to AlxTgr
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Flying due to thrust.
What do you think makes something fly? Is this hypothetical taking place somewhere where Newtons laws don't apply?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:09 pm to meansonny
quote:if I am belted into the wheels and the wheels match the belt?
could put a regulator on the wheels so that they do not exceed the speed of the belt.
Will this draft be because I am moving forward?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:10 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Air movement over a wing.
What do you think makes something fly?
quote:This is a great question for those not getting the wheels on the moving treadmill part.
Is this hypothetical taking place somewhere where Newtons laws don't apply?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:11 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:so the wheels remain at rest?
Because no power is transmitted to the wheels,
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