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re: Calcasieu resident Chad Daigle sentenced for fracturing sons skull

Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:17 pm to
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I'll try to dig up a thread or two from recent days that support my argument. But really, you can just pick any true crime thread where the perp is black.

ok


Here's 2 from the past month or so:

LINK

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Kid abuse to me is the worst, but this country could really take a look at how we view our penal system.

well my post above is about treating the issues that arise BEFORE something like abuse occurs. he needs to be punished for what he did. i just think that he (and the vast majority of people in our criminal system) can be led off the path that is taking them to the societal disruptive behavior

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At least they only have like a 10% recidivism rate though.

yeah our system is terrible at this. we don't just punish the people for their crime, we make them wear scarlet letters. plus jail itself puts the people even further behind normal society and often causes even more psychological trauma. it all but guarantees recidivism and it does guarantee the destruction of the criminal's economic potential
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:20 pm to
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How did you manage to ever survive the zombie apocalypse in 2000s in Lake Charles--


i lived in BR from 2001-2008

#Metro4Life, though
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:20 pm to
You're a gigantic pussy.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:22 pm to
There is no rehabilitation in prison. All prison does is turn you into a more knowledgeable criminal with more and better contacts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Here's 2 from the past month or so:

LINK

LINK


when white trash is on video you get the exact same threads
Posted by BehindU
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2014
564 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:38 pm to
or the RED size 72 font tat on his forehead. This alone screams I make the best personal decisions, please do not worry about me!
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Here's 2 from the past month or so:
ok, those got pretty bad in a few places
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:43 pm to
VOLTA. It's the name of his dog. I ran into him the week he got it.

Also, has anyone linked to any past Ron Ware rulings? This one is my favorite:

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES: The horrific third-degree burns inflicted on two-year-old boy by foster mom who scolded him with boiling water - but ESCAPED jail
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:43 pm to
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eah our system is terrible at this. we don't just punish the people for their crime, we make them wear scarlet letters. plus jail itself puts the people even further behind normal society and often causes even more psychological trauma. it all but guarantees recidivism and it does guarantee the destruction of the criminal's economic potential


What other results would you expect in a, largely, for-profit industry?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:45 pm to
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What other results would you expect in a, largely, for-profit industry?

man you watch the genesis of the crimes and shite and it's not about that. the prison industry just found gubment money to profit off of

it's crony capitalism
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:46 pm to
Really wish we could revoke citizenship for violent criminals and drop them in Syria.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:47 pm to
make them join the french foreign legion
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:48 pm to
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fricking white trash, sister screwing, trailer dwelling, meth cooking, face tattoo having waste of life.


His brother is one of the most loving, chill, and happy person I've ever met.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:50 pm to
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Relax, he'll frick up his supervised and have to serve the 10.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:52 pm to
It's just a fact that some people need to be removed from society. There's no helping them. Other people can benefit from rehab programs, but not some.

I guess all you can do in those situations is to hope they frick up in prison and get stuck in there, or get so institutionalized that they can't function for longer than a week in society when they get out. Then, unfunctional people get returned to where they belong
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:52 pm to
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man you watch the genesis of the crimes and shite and it's not about that. the prison industry just found gubment money to profit off of

it's crony capitalism


ok, that is what I am referring to. It is about the money they can make by keeping people in jail with the gubment passing stupid shite like 3 strike laws.

They've gotten the American public to eat that shite up too. Just lock em all away forever, at a cost of $30k/yer per inmate ;)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463698 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:58 pm to
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It's just a fact that some people need to be removed from society.

i agree but even then, though are people with severe psychological disorders

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There's no helping them. Other people can benefit from rehab programs, but not some.

the whole point is to identify other psychological issues that work on them before the person acts out and falls victim to the issue

this is more than just drugs. jerad fogle has a fricked up brain and if he was put through the right therapy i guarantee you he doesn't act out. drugs and addiciton are the biggie. we have chosen to ignore the issue of our psychological predispositions and the effects of drugs and would rather ignore it and just try to punish people caught with drugs. that system is how normal guys turn out to be chad daigle.

there are also societal factors, and i mean small society. cultcha, lower class mentality, trash culture, whatever you want to call it. many kids are simply never given a chance to ever function normally b/c the adults around them are complete pieces of shite. if we learned to identify these issues sooner we would eliminate hundreds of thousands of criminals by "fixing" them and educating them before crimes are ever committed
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 1:16 pm to
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i agree but even then, though are people with severe psychological disorders
So this gives them a free pass to be in the wild? All it takes is missing one dose of meds, or taking one sip of booze, and you're back at square one
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jerad fogle has a fricked up brain and if he was put through the right therapy i guarantee you he doesn't act out.
You know you can't guarantee that. So...shock therapy? A stern talking to? Inpatient? Outpatient? How long does this go on, and who pays for it? Who stops him from doing what he does while in treatment? He's where he belongs, and can't touch children there
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many kids are simply never given a chance to ever function normally b/c the adults around them are complete pieces of shite.
Such is life. We might be able to affect small-scale situations, but that part of society will never go away. It has and always will be there
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463698 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 1:19 pm to
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So this gives them a free pass to be in the wild?

i didn't say that. it just returns the issue back to psychological problems. people with severe mental illness do need to be removed from society, but it gets difficult. some people can function with schizophrenia pretty well like 90% of the time, but 10% of the time it's difficult. then there are less threatening disorders that still somewhat remove people from society, like autism. you may be imprisoning them, too. it's not a clear line with the extreme cases

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