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re: Bruce Lee vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr in their prime

Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:54 am to
Posted by Thacian
USA
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:54 am to
I never knew lee had a pro career?...

Lee whips àss in movies.... in real life just fighting?... really who knows? Just think about it for a second.. mayweather is 49 an 0 fighting professionally... to see Lee fight for real has yet to ever have been seen....a back yard fight.. id have to go with mayweather
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:20 am to
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Bruce Lee doesnt know Jiu Jitsu. Even in his movies his submissions are incorrect and laughable. They work on screen in the 70s when no one knew what Jiu Jitsu is but they were whack.


You obviously know very little about Bruce Lee.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:28 am to
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You obviously know very little about Bruce Lee.


Show me some footage of BL doing good BJJ. I can show you scenes from movies where even after choreography and cooperation it's terrible, ineffective and wrong
Posted by ElroyJetSon
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:34 am to
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My question is why so many people hate Floyd bc of his antics?


Beating the shite out of women does not equal "antics"
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:38 am to
I can show you martial arts masters still alive today that he trained which will tell you he was legit and was obsessed with learning as much as he could about all styles.

I can show you in various biographies how Lee adapted his "fighting style" for cameras so as to balance the idea of entertainment and technique. For example, in Lee's own words most of his kicks would never rise above the waist and his lead punch would be utilized much more in actual fighting. You never see that on screen. What you see on screen is more like intentional ballet.

But in line with this thread - Lee did fight competively in Hong Kong when he first started training under Ip Man. He entered the international Hong Kong Boxing invitational at 13 years old and whipped everyone's asses. That's when Ip Man probably realized he was dealing with a prodigy.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:38 am to
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Floyd is a tactician and is hands down the greatest pound for pound fighter in the history of boxing.


No. If Mayweather goes down as the GOAT, boxing is truly dead.

ETA: Bruce Lee was one of the greatest martial arts masters ever. Even in just a boxing match he would be above anything Mayweather knows.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 7:40 am
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25128 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:41 am to
I can show you martial arts masters in various disciplines that can't beat an average high school wrestler.

I believe you know more about Bruce Lee than combat sport and that explains your foolish assumptions.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:42 am to
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Even in just a boxing match he would be above anything Mayweather knows


Ladies and gentlemen...
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:44 am to
He's not some guy who took up karate and got his black belt. Fighting was his world.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:45 am to
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He never competed one fricking time.
neither did Mr. Miyagi, but made John Kreese fold up like a lawn chair.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:47 am to
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I can show you martial arts masters in various disciplines that can't beat an average high school wrestler.

I believe you know more about Bruce Lee than combat sport and that explains your foolish assumptions.


First, I studied Lee's own words and philosophy on fighting AND acting. If anyone's making "foolish" assumptions, it's you doing so based upon his "fighting technique on camera". Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

Second, that comment about high school wrestlers beating true Martial Arts masters is asinine. It reaks of insecurity, like you were beat up in karate as a kid and now sit back and critique fighters to feel better about it.

This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 7:49 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:48 am to
But Lee did compete. I cited when and where and he ignored that
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25128 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:02 am to
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First, I studied Lee's own words and philosophy on fighting AND acting. If anyone's making "foolish" assumptions, it's you doing so based upon his "fighting technique on camera". Do you realize how retarded that sounds?



This proves that you know more about Bruce Lee than combat sports. Also, thats the only way you can actually analyze his skill..on camera.

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But Lee did compete. I cited when and where and he ignored that



You didnt "cite" anything. You claimed that someone saw him do it and then recounted the results. But what exactly was even recounting? That a 13 yr old Bruce Lee beat up grown men in a tournament. Or that a 13 yr old Bruce Lee beat up 13 year olds? If the latter..who fricking cares. If the former gtfo. BL weighed at most 165 as a grown man. So you'd be claiming an 80lb preteen beat up grown men who were skilled at fighting. C'mon bro.

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Second, that comment about high school wrestlers beating true Martial Arts masters is asinine. It reaks of insecurity, like you were beat up in karate as a kid and now sit back and critique fighters to feel better about it.



WTF are you talking about!? Dont act like i dont respect martial artists. Wonderboy Thompson is a pure point karate fighter that murks dudes into the shadow realm. Muay Thai guys will literally amputate your leg off. Ive pointed out the effectiveness of martial arts many times in this thread.

I was simply pointing out that early martial arts is filled with scams. Aikido is a fricking scam and masters are getting schooled by novice wrestlers on youtube. Go look it up. Even TKD is not suuuppper effective against actual fighting.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25128 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:09 am to
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It's from the Internet, so it has to be true...actually, seems like a pretty good breakdown of the question of Lee's abilities.




That author know nothing about fighting. Why would you not ask an expert? lol
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60153 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:16 am to
He quoted two world champions in that article (Mike Stone and Joe Lewis) who said Lee was legit.

Lewis, a world champ multiple times over, and trained with Lee says Lee was the best fighter he ever knew.

Chuck Norris, a world champ multiple times over, trained with Lee for three years, and says Lee was legit.

Muhammad Ali says similar things.

If you think people are buying your opinion over world champs like Lewis, Norris, Stone, and Ali who trained and fight with Lee personally, then you're funny.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16007 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:18 am to
I can't believe this thread is still going on
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:22 am to
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He quoted two world champions in that article (Mike Stone and Joe Lewis) who said Lee was legit.

Lewis, a world champ multiple times over, and trained with Lee says Lee was the best fighter he ever knew.

Chuck Norris, a world champ multiple times over, trained with Lee for three years, and says Lee was legit.

Muhammad Ali says similar things.

If you think people are buying your opinion over world champs like Lewis, Norris, Stone, and Ali who trained and fight with Lee personally, then you're funny.


You've been here long enough to know this is how the OT works.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:22 am to
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I can show you martial arts masters still alive today that he trained which will tell you he was legit and was obsessed with learning as much as he could about all styles. I can show you in various biographies how Lee adapted his "fighting style" for cameras so as to balance the idea of entertainment and technique. For example, in Lee's own words most of his kicks would never rise above the waist and his lead punch would be utilized much more in actual fighting. You never see that on screen. What you see on screen is more like intentional ballet. But in line with this thread - Lee did fight competively in Hong Kong when he first started training under Ip Man. He entered the international Hong Kong Boxing invitational at 13 years old and whipped everyone's asses. That's when Ip Man probably realized he was dealing with a prodigy.
1. Those martial arts masters are masters in the art of bullshite. They spoke at a time when martial arts were still mysterious and mystical. They spent a lot of time hyping up the legend of martial arts. These are the same people who claim that Bruce Lee could kick a 200 pound heavy bag to the ceiling and defeat any opponent in 3 to 4 seconds.

And here is no proof Bruce Lee fought competitively. That boxing story, first of all, is baseless. People have looked into it and they cannot find any record of him competing in any boxing tournament.

Even if it WAS true that he competeted in a tournament... it was a local middle school tournament So that's your proof that he was a competitive fighter???

I played baseball at 13 and was on the all-star team. Does that mean I could take on he Major Leagues? Hell no.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:25 am to
The thing that is important to note here is the mental make up of Bruce Lee. If you gave him and Mayweather the same amount of time to prepare for a fight I wholeheartedly think Lee would be able to mentally prepare himself to frick Floyd up. He had the skills and, more importantly, the speed to stand toe to toe with him.
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