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Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:59 pm to DelU249
Somebody keeps down voting you know matter what 
but I've read this whole thread and you really have the most realistic thought of anyone on here to me. I mean I think Lee could possibly beat Mayweather but it would be close either way on the street. Both in their prime were supreme athletes in top physical condition and although he never fight Lee clearly had an understanding of fighting and could probably do ok in a street fight. If I had to put money on it I'd probably go with Mayweather just because there's no practice like the real thing
but I've read this whole thread and you really have the most realistic thought of anyone on here to me. I mean I think Lee could possibly beat Mayweather but it would be close either way on the street. Both in their prime were supreme athletes in top physical condition and although he never fight Lee clearly had an understanding of fighting and could probably do ok in a street fight. If I had to put money on it I'd probably go with Mayweather just because there's no practice like the real thing Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:17 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It boils down to mayweather being less of a fighter under such conditions. The real wild card for me is Bruce lee taking a punch in a real fight with a prize fighter.
capable fighter with versatility vs. a very good fighter with no versatility. i'm going with versatility.
quote:yeah if you're a famous martial artists, I doubt you're a pushover in a fight, but that he didn't fight...that's a disadvantage and a legit question mark...I look at bruce lee as a capable fighter...I look at Mayweather as a great fighter under conditions that work against the skills that make him great. it widdles it down to this for me.
and although he never fight Lee clearly had an understanding of fighting and could probably do ok in a street fight.
capable fighter with versatility vs. a very good fighter with no versatility. i'm going with versatility.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:29 pm to DelU249
I agree 100% on what you said I just put more value on the fact we know Mayweather can take a punch
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:30 pm to DelU249
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capable fighter with versatility vs. a very good fighter with no versatility. i'm going with versatility
No versatility?
Come on man.
Check out the Mayweather/Hatton fight at 2:45. Bruce Lee would not be able to handle shots like that. Not even one.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:40 pm to dnm3305
versatility meaning Mayweather would be punching, lee would be punching and kicking and is probably somewhat decent with grappling.
Mayweather is a champion fighter, undefeated. i don't enjoy his fights but the guys is freaking skilled and his reputation earned. i just don't think this type of fight would play to his strengths like a boxing match would.
the criticism of lee of not having fought and having his reputation embellished from movies is a valid point...but while he wasn't fighting, spending your life practicing doesn't mean you should be dismissed as some jabroni.
Mayweather is a champion fighter, undefeated. i don't enjoy his fights but the guys is freaking skilled and his reputation earned. i just don't think this type of fight would play to his strengths like a boxing match would.
the criticism of lee of not having fought and having his reputation embellished from movies is a valid point...but while he wasn't fighting, spending your life practicing doesn't mean you should be dismissed as some jabroni.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:43 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:it's really close for me, initially without any thought i was thinking oh yeah bruce lee.
I agree 100% on what you said I just put more value on the fact we know Mayweather can take a punch
i don't think either answer is bad, where i think it becomes outlandish is people who think bruce lee is going to last in a fight against iron mike at his peak.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:48 pm to Abadeebadaba
Who wins in a fight, Sylvester Stallone or Mohammed Ali?
Who is better at football, Jamie Fox or Michael Vick?
Who can rope a calf better, John Wayne or Billy the Kid?
Who is better at football, Jamie Fox or Michael Vick?
Who can rope a calf better, John Wayne or Billy the Kid?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:50 pm to DelU249
I have seen many videos of what they call "traditional martial artists" (Kung Fu, Taekwondo, Karate, etc) challenge MMA fighters to fights because they think MMA fighters are just unskilled tough guys.
These black belt traditional martial artists then get their asses kicked by MMA guys because the MMA guys train to actually fight. They aren't wasting their time learning all of these silly kicking techniques like the traditional martial arts guys do because 90% of them don't work.
MMA fighters learn Muay Thai because Muay Thai is actually used to fight in Muay Thai kickboxing. They use their shins to destroy people's legs and knock people out.
MMA has proven what works and what doesn't because of trial and error in real fights. And it's been proven that a lot from traditional martial arts is bullshite.
These black belt traditional martial artists then get their asses kicked by MMA guys because the MMA guys train to actually fight. They aren't wasting their time learning all of these silly kicking techniques like the traditional martial arts guys do because 90% of them don't work.
MMA fighters learn Muay Thai because Muay Thai is actually used to fight in Muay Thai kickboxing. They use their shins to destroy people's legs and knock people out.
MMA has proven what works and what doesn't because of trial and error in real fights. And it's been proven that a lot from traditional martial arts is bullshite.
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:51 pm to DelU249
Also the guy below you who acts like Bruce is some run of the mill stunt man kinda gets old too
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:11 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:You said he wasn't a fighter. He fought all the time. He was pretty famous for it, and the people who challenged him weren't just baws who'd had too many beers.
What does getting challenged have to do with anything?
There are many good documentaries and books about Lee. Watch/read one of them some time.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:16 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:yeah i don't get that either, but anyone with legendary status separating fact from fiction is tough.
run of the mill stunt man
babe ruth for example
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:19 pm to blueboy
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You said he wasn't a fighter. He fought all the time. He was pretty famous for it, and the people who challenged him weren't just baws who'd had too many beers.
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Most of his fights are poorly documented. Despite having only fought a handful of times, a solid chunk of the documentation is anecdotal or straight-up hearsay. Considering the significant legend status all of Bruce's hagiographers have produced, it's hard to know what to believe.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
but Floyd Mayweather isn't an MMA fighter...he's a boxer and the advantages he has in a boxing ring he wouldn't have at least not to the same effect in the type of fight proposed by the OP.
if Mayweather were bigger than lee or a different type of boxer or a guy well known to drop dudes with one shot regularly... i'd feel differently. i don't know shite about pro fighting either, it's just my opinion.
some of lee's status is built on demonstrations that come off like parlor tricks, but he did spend his life practicing martial arts, and i can't dismiss that. so like i said, it's more about the rules making a great fighter more ordinary and putting lee in between total scrub stunt man and legendary kung fu master.
if Mayweather were bigger than lee or a different type of boxer or a guy well known to drop dudes with one shot regularly... i'd feel differently. i don't know shite about pro fighting either, it's just my opinion.
some of lee's status is built on demonstrations that come off like parlor tricks, but he did spend his life practicing martial arts, and i can't dismiss that. so like i said, it's more about the rules making a great fighter more ordinary and putting lee in between total scrub stunt man and legendary kung fu master.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:31 pm to PrimeTime Money
here's a better way of looking at it...steven seagal is a stunt man. he's also fat, out of shape and looks ridiculous.
would you write him off against Mayweather in a fight that allows grappling, kicking, tackling, etc.?
even as fat as he is now, i wouldn't.
some of these karate dudes would probably get owned in a fight and look ridiculous, but some of them are seriously bad dudes i wouldn't frick with. seagal being the latter.
would you write him off against Mayweather in a fight that allows grappling, kicking, tackling, etc.?
even as fat as he is now, i wouldn't.
some of these karate dudes would probably get owned in a fight and look ridiculous, but some of them are seriously bad dudes i wouldn't frick with. seagal being the latter.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:34 pm to DelU249
I would. Steven Segal is trained in aikido. Are you familiar at all with aikido?
It's grade A horse shite.
It's grade A horse shite.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
no i don't know shite about the karate man except they bleed on the inside.
but I've heard that some ufc fighters had seagal come in to show them his hong kong phooey
like i said though, it's about the situation, and who knows, maybe Mayweather is crazy as frick and would be even better in a street fight
now if you replace Mayweather with an mma fighter of equal accomplishment (if there is one) i'm taking that guy every day of the week over any karate man.
i remember that street fighter from florida who was this big arse dude who was hyped and he fought a UFC fight and got worked.
but I've heard that some ufc fighters had seagal come in to show them his hong kong phooey
like i said though, it's about the situation, and who knows, maybe Mayweather is crazy as frick and would be even better in a street fight
now if you replace Mayweather with an mma fighter of equal accomplishment (if there is one) i'm taking that guy every day of the week over any karate man.
i remember that street fighter from florida who was this big arse dude who was hyped and he fought a UFC fight and got worked.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
Aikido is Judo for fat people.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:49 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
maybe seagal is a bad example then personally i think karate is stupid, but my original point is that Mayweather is a great boxer whose best skills make him ordinary in a fight with someone who will be doing the hong kong phooey at a competent level.
personally i think karate is stupid, but my original point is that Mayweather is a great boxer whose best skills make him ordinary in a fight with someone who will be doing the hong kong phooey at a competent level. 
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