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re: Bruce Lee vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr in their prime

Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:24 am to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:24 am to
Good point.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:27 am to
Hey we agree that Tyson would murder both of them right?

he really was the baddest man on the planet
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:29 am to
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quick little jab-like punch.


LMAO.

You're a dumbass for trivializing it like that.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:29 am to
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I take the word of fighters who say he could
They don't say he could fight. Joe Lewis who trained with Bruce said he wasn't a fighter.. only a teacher. Chuck Norris also kind of avoids the question when he's asked about Bruce Lee's fighting prowess.

The thing you have to understand with some of these other martial artists is that Bruce was famous and thought of as a legend, so training with him and hyping up his legend makes themselves seem better. It's a big jerk off.

And a lot of these other martial artists were not fighters either. So as for Bruce Lee's actual fighting prowess, they wouldn't have anything to compare him to since they weren't fighters either.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:29 am to
Tyson missed his calling as a no rules, cage fighter to the death.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:33 am to
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LMAO. You're a dumbass for trivializing it like that.


Oh yeah? What would you call this?

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:34 am to
Again though. I'm talking about the rules making mayweather mortal

It's kind of hard to imagine you could study fighting techniques your whole life and not be able to fight somewhat competently I'm not talking about being lee being potentially a world class fighter because IMO such insane rules make mayweather less than he is in a boxing ring...a lot less. Now if mayweather had more weight on him or had a height advantage...mayweather no question.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:36 am to
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Do you think you could land one punch on Mayweather's head in a 12 round boxing match if he wasn't allowed to punch back?


No, not on Mayweather. Perhaps on a heavyweight or someone of my size, but not on the smaller guys and especially a defensive fighter like Mayweather.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:36 am to
I'm not a boxing afficianado but it's my opinion nonetheless that mike Tyson from 1985 and 1986 is unbeatable in a boxing match. It's pretty clear seeing his later fights he just started walking over and hitting guys. He regressed technically
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:43 am to
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No, he did a very shitty arm lock of some sort.


I couldn't remember, I don't think I have watched that flick in 20 years. However, it caught my eye since any type of ground submission back then would have been rare.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:13 am to
The problem with that is many instructors focused on fine motor movement patterns, in a real fight with adrenaline pumping fine motor skills can be neglected.

Also many of those mcdojo's that the instructors ran would give out black belts like candy, you are right.

There are some positives but there are many negatives
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:13 am to
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Do you think you could land one punch on Mayweather's head in a 12 round boxing match if he wasn't allowed to punch back?


No. But biggest problem is it wouldn't go 12 rounds, even the most athletic guys with no sparring experience or training wouldn't be able to move their arms from exhaustion by the end of round 2. I've tried casual sparring a few times, going a full 3 minutes of hard sparring was one of the hardest athletic things I've done in my life, probably only second to the 400 meter dash.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:16 am to
Rare in a martial arts movie. Not rare in general. Catch wrestling was all about submissions and that was right here in America.

It's where terms came from like: hammerlock, leg lock, arm lock, key lock, half Nelson, full Nelson, toe hold, etc.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27857 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:19 am to
You could hit him once. You could grab him and body him up and get some rabbit punches in since you know he can't hit back.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10982 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:26 am to
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It's where terms came from like: hammerlock, leg lock, arm lock, key lock, half Nelson, full Nelson, toe hold, etc.



Sounds like some Sambo shite. We do that stuff too. It's way more fun to just do Sambo submissions but most of that isn't legal in a jits tournament so we only train it for self defense applications m ostly. Plus, it can get painful quick for training partners, but damn you can get some quick taps using Sambo submissions.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25126 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 10:35 am to
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You could hit him once. You could grab him and body him up and get some rabbit punches in since you know he can't hit back.



Yeah. Lol. If he cant use his hands i can clinch him up and punch him for sure.

If he could use his hands. HA!. I dont think i could land a strike anywhere. And im not sure im prepared to handle the trauma my skull would have inflicted on it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63165 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:11 am to
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The thing you have to understand with some of these other martial artists is that Bruce was famous and thought of as a legend, so training with him and hyping up his legend makes themselves seem better. It's a big jerk off.
bullshite. Bruce Lee used to get challenged to fight all the time. There are numerous witnessed accounts of him being challenged publicly by complete strangers he randomly encountered while filming movies or just going about his day.

I don't know what insider information you think you have, but it's bullshite. Bruce is also highly revered among MMA fighters.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27857 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:19 am to
What does getting challenged have to do with anything?

And MMA fighters like Jean Claude Van Damme too. They grew up with those martial arts movies and for a lot of them it's what got them interested in martial arts in the first place. So what.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:23 am to
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fighters like Jean Claude Van Damme too

Didn't he get his clock cleaned by some random in a bar?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:18 pm to
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You could hit him once. You could grab him and body him up and get some rabbit punches in since you know he can't hit back.


I don't think I could grab him in a phone booth.

And he can't hit back but he can block and swat my hands away.
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