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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:42 pm to mikelbr
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These kind of bad apples happen everywhere.
I don't disagree, but it seems that BRPD has more than their share.
Instead of addressing an officer sleeping on the job (it happens) these numbnuts execute a warrant on the complainant.
That kinda crap is pretty scary, TBH.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:46 pm to LSURussian
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Exactly. Where is the cover up?
Well thats the thing about coverups. They're oft covered up so you cant see em.
What worries me is typically sex offenders dont just start raping. They start with lesser sex crimes and they progress into more serious crimes as the perp looks to live out his fantasy. Just because the DA is prosecuting these guys now, doesnt mean the department hasnt been sweeping other allegations under the rug. And i realize thats a "what if", but i think its a legitamate concern in cases of sex crimes, especially when the perp is in a position of authority. One thing i'll add is this: brpd firing bad officers is not proof that they are "policing themselves ok". Firing a few bad eggs, or in this case, putting them on paid leave, does not fix problems. It does not fix obvious hiring problems, and it does not fix cultural or systemic issues within the force. 3 officers conspired to commit a sex crime. That signals a problem that firing/prosecuting these 3 guys will not fix.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:47 pm to VetteGuy
quote:No, I didn't. My wife is the mind reader in our family, not me.
but you knew (I think) that I was referring to the other thread.
quote:I have no reason to not defend the majority of officers who work for BRPD. Are there some bad apples? Yes, of course. And I hope the purge of those bad apples continues.
I meant the BRPD as a whole, because of your defense of them in the other thread.
quote:So all you know about the BRPD is when something a small minority of them do makes it to the newspaper???
I don't even live in BR
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:49 pm to RoyMcavoy
quote:And this incident is on the front page of the BR paper, including the indictment, firing and arrest details.
Well thats the thing about coverups. They're oft covered up so you ca
So, by definition, it's not covered up.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:51 pm to LSURussian
I wasnt saying this particular incident was covered up.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:52 pm to LSURussian
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So all you know about the BRPD
I'm in BR on a )semi) weekly basis.
It appears to me the department is poorly run, with outsized personnel issues given it's size.
IMO, they need less officers, higher pay, with more stringent qualifications. Leadership may or may not be good, IDK.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:21 pm to VetteGuy
They need more officers in the field. They have too many officers on desk duty. Let's see the last count was 649- racist text messaging thug 648- 3 involved in warching or screwing woman on duty= 645. Besides the chief that is a puppet and runs kip Holden's thug force how many officers are on the street compared to how many officers are driving brpd vehicles?
If they have a brpd vehicle what is their excuse for not being on patrol inside Baton Rouge.
If 500 or more officers are not on the street we have serious issues with kippers thug force.
They can bitch and wine but they are paid more than the sheriff deputy's in EBRP. They also don't pay mileage on vehicles taken outside the city or parish. EBRPSO pays mileage if they live outside the parish.
Brpd is a bunch of lazy bums.
They need to all go on strike and have the blue flu so we can replace them with Ebrpso.
If they have a brpd vehicle what is their excuse for not being on patrol inside Baton Rouge.
If 500 or more officers are not on the street we have serious issues with kippers thug force.
They can bitch and wine but they are paid more than the sheriff deputy's in EBRP. They also don't pay mileage on vehicles taken outside the city or parish. EBRPSO pays mileage if they live outside the parish.
Brpd is a bunch of lazy bums.
They need to all go on strike and have the blue flu so we can replace them with Ebrpso.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:26 pm to VetteGuy
quote:That's possible.
It appears to me the department is poorly run, with outsized personnel issues given it's size.
What metric are you using to measure BRPD's personnel/staffing requirements? I ask because I have done some research on the topic and I can't find any guidelines to go by.
In fact, most websites on the topic say don't trust any guidelines because each jurisdiction is different in the paperwork and investigative requirements of any crime.
I know that several years ago the BRPD staffed to attain a 24/7, three shift level of patrol officers. The goal was to have as many policeman on patrol at 3 AM as it has at 3 PM, seven days a week. Whether that's overstaffing or not, I don't know.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:31 pm to johnnyrocket
quote:And then you go on to say you don't know how many police officers are "in the field" or how many officers are "on the street."
They need more officers in the field.
But you know the BRPD is overstaffed AND needs more officers.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:37 pm to LSUWrangler
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I have 650 officers, and 649 of them work their butts off every day for the city of Baton Rouge."
Might be down to 646 now.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:42 pm to LSURussian
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What metric are you using to measure BRPD's personnel/staffing requirements? I ask because I have done some research on the topic and I can't find any guidelines to go by.
A gut call, really.
AT $30K a pop you aren't going to get the best candidates.
I would rather have 500 cops at $50K per year than 640 at $30K. Oversimplifying, but you see my point. If you make the job desirable, you will get desirable candidates.
Crime continues to fall to historic lows in this country and it's not b/c we have more police.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:49 pm to VetteGuy
I do agree I make more in retirement from a dept than a brpd capt makes. Granted I also learned more, seen worse crimes, and actually did my job unlike brpd officers.
Granted our dept was a lot more advanced, better trained, and less Chiefs.
We also were accountable to the people and there was a citizen oversight panel.
Granted our dept was a lot more advanced, better trained, and less Chiefs.
We also were accountable to the people and there was a citizen oversight panel.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:51 pm to LSURussian
The main issue with BRPD is that they're a cash cow. They harass normal working class citizens now more so than ever just to fund the dept. When 4 members of the DWI task force are making WELL over $100,000 a year, we have a problem. That's insanity and downright criminal. They've realized how much money they can make off of DWI's, brake tag checkpoints and other petty crimes and they're milking that for all it's worth. NO, the majority don't give a frick about protecting and serving. It's a corrupt dept and more normal people are starting to realize that.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:53 pm to meauxjeaux2
Thank goodness these model officers will be providing protection to all of those newly annexed areas.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:54 pm to johnnyrocket
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I do agree I make more in retirement
This is why we can't keep hiring more cops.
Municipalities are turning into GM where retired workers are killing their budgets. It is why I say we have too many cops and we have to be smarter about hiring them.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:55 pm to VetteGuy
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AT $30K a pop you aren't going to get the best candidates.
You do realize that they can double or even triple their base salary with OT right?
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:59 pm to lsut2005
Yes, understood. 
Still would prefer a higher base for better applicants.
Still would prefer a higher base for better applicants.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:01 pm to lsut2005
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:01 pm to VetteGuy
quote:Okay, thanks.
A gut call, really.
I've gone as far back as 2012 and the number of employees in the BRPD has stayed the same the entire time. That includes the number of BRPD employees budgeted for 2015.
quote:If you read the book Freakonomics the authors Levitt and Dubner theorized the reason crime in the U.S. has dropped is because of widespread legalized abortion in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade. It has resulted in a large number of future criminals from a certain ethnic group being aborted and therefore not being around to commit crimes.
Crime continues to fall to historic lows in this country and it's not b/c we have more police.
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