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re: Brother in law overdosed on heroin last week
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:08 pm to 3putts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:08 pm to 3putts
Not family but here in Kenton County we’ve recently had a couple of fentanyl-using skanks kill their 2-year-old and 4-year-old baby boys by passing out and leaving their drugs where the kids could get to it. Both are charged with murder.
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:15 pm to summersausage
Drugs and being hooked on drugs has ZERO to do with family, income or upbringing ! It's where you were when. Think about the last part. I was totally hooked on oxys for about 4-5 years. The amount was so insane you'd think I was lying. I lost all my money, Alot of money, so much that...you guessed it you'd think I was lying, lol ! I laugh to keep from crying. Not a day goes by that I don't feel like a dick for mostly screwing my wife over, kids, and me. Money isn't everything but not having to worry about it is nice. My car now has 459 thousand plus miles on it, if or when it goes I'm screwed. My job is based on driving! Oh I lost all my money gambling. I didn't care because if I lost I just snorted, smoked drugs and I didn't care... Until the money was all gone ! Then it was like WTF did I just do !!! My mother never, smoke or drank ! My dad smoked then quit when doc told him to. He had one "high ball" at night. Found out later in life my grandpa was hooked on the horses. Anyway good luck , Pray
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:17 pm to Cracker
Addicts that OD should be warehoused in dungeons.
Chains, gruel, pisspot, the whole nine yards.
No withdrawl meds, pyschoanylists, or molly-coddling.
Most junkies don't fix themselves.
My method lessens the harm they cause their loved ones and neighbors.
Chains, gruel, pisspot, the whole nine yards.
No withdrawl meds, pyschoanylists, or molly-coddling.
Most junkies don't fix themselves.
My method lessens the harm they cause their loved ones and neighbors.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:19 pm to Roman Candle Tag
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My method lessens the harm they cause their loved ones and neighbors.
Unfortunately it does nothing to lessen your ignorance.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:22 pm to Roman Candle Tag
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Addicts that OD should be warehoused in dungeons.
Chains, gruel, pisspot, the whole nine yards.
No withdrawl meds, pyschoanylists, or molly-coddling.
Most will still go back unless they have counseling to learn how to deal with their issues without having to get high.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:23 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Such a lazy response.
Try harder.
Try harder.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:25 pm to TigerLunatik
See Early Cuyler, this is not a lazy response:
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Most will still go back unless they have counseling to learn how to deal with their issues without having to get high.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:29 pm to TigerLunatik
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Most will still go back unless they have counseling to learn how to deal with their issues without having to get high.
How much collateral damage is acceptable to try and reclaim such a person?
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:31 pm to chaso
Good vibes going your way man
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:32 pm to Roman Candle Tag
Any addict is a moment away from an overdose or other drug-induced medical emergency. So there's really not much of a legit distinction between "addicts" and "addicts who overdose".
I myself had to stay over at a rehab facility for a spell. Upon first meeting my new roomie it immediately jumps out to me that he looked like he was straight out of the prison yard at Angola State Penitentiary. A life of drug addiction and crime had finally collided at the intersection of that particular point in time.
Long story short, we got to know each other on an equal footing (me being a lawyer and even more specifically a prosecutor at the time, him being a rather hardened criminal). Turns out he was a swell man. He eventually told me his story: for a significant period of his childhood his frickin mother of all people and her evil boyfriend were filming hardcore porn videos (VHS tape times) and he played, well, a rather prominent role in the videos. Those two monsters were selling the homemade videos.
Kinda hard to fault the man for the rest of his life spiraling into oblivion. I committed to never prejudging a person in this position again. There's more unspeakable evils going on with aome folks than we'd like to accept.
I myself had to stay over at a rehab facility for a spell. Upon first meeting my new roomie it immediately jumps out to me that he looked like he was straight out of the prison yard at Angola State Penitentiary. A life of drug addiction and crime had finally collided at the intersection of that particular point in time.
Long story short, we got to know each other on an equal footing (me being a lawyer and even more specifically a prosecutor at the time, him being a rather hardened criminal). Turns out he was a swell man. He eventually told me his story: for a significant period of his childhood his frickin mother of all people and her evil boyfriend were filming hardcore porn videos (VHS tape times) and he played, well, a rather prominent role in the videos. Those two monsters were selling the homemade videos.
Kinda hard to fault the man for the rest of his life spiraling into oblivion. I committed to never prejudging a person in this position again. There's more unspeakable evils going on with aome folks than we'd like to accept.
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:36 pm to Roman Candle Tag
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How much collateral damage is acceptable to try and reclaim such a person?
Honestly I think it depends on the people involved and how many chances the addict is given. I can really go off of my own experience. I had to end up getting arrested for doing something stupid and then really hitting the bottom. I finally quit because of my kid, but I had court appointed counseling to fall back on.
Most people that I ever did drugs with were good people doing bad things. I would say that if you think it's a good person that you keep trying to help them as long as you can do it without totally blowing up your own life.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:43 pm to davyjones
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Any addict is a moment away from an overdose or other drug-induced medical emergency. So there's really not much of a legit distinction between "addicts" and "addicts who overdose".
I have no ill-will towards drug-users that keep their habit to themselves.
There's a difference to me between those that keep their business (for better or poorer) to themselves and those that impose their problems on everyone else.
That's an awful story you told.
I do sympathize with those with shite upbringings or terrible circumstances.
But my empathy ends when they impose their problems on others.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:05 am to Roman Candle Tag
And I do completely respect your opinion, even if we don't necessarily see eye to eye on the subject. I would certainly acknowledge that in reality there's somewhat of a spectrum on which addicts could fall. And I would agree that towards one end of that spectrum there exists those who are simply being little shits and have no "good" justification for their actions and inactions that, yes, do oftentimes negatively affect those around them due to no fault of their own. I probably wouldn't have too much tolerance for those.
But at the other end there's folks like my former roommate who may well have been so messed up by those situations that perhaps the best life he can hope for is a constant severe struggle, but maybe at least be struggling outside of prison.
But the real issue with all the above is how so you tell who's who? Who's at one end of the spectrum or the other. Because we probably all agree by now that these things span all socioeconomic classes, all races, etc etc. This is where the idea might come in of playing it safe and just assuming any such person is at that worst end, again, unless and until they show otherwise and lose benefit of the doubt.
In any event....
But at the other end there's folks like my former roommate who may well have been so messed up by those situations that perhaps the best life he can hope for is a constant severe struggle, but maybe at least be struggling outside of prison.
But the real issue with all the above is how so you tell who's who? Who's at one end of the spectrum or the other. Because we probably all agree by now that these things span all socioeconomic classes, all races, etc etc. This is where the idea might come in of playing it safe and just assuming any such person is at that worst end, again, unless and until they show otherwise and lose benefit of the doubt.
In any event....
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 12:07 am
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:18 am to davyjones
I'll admit I'm well on the cynical end of understanding spread.
Most of my *knowing interactions with addicts have been with those of a very predatory nature.
You're right to mention those on the other end.
Good talk.
Most of my *knowing interactions with addicts have been with those of a very predatory nature.
You're right to mention those on the other end.
Good talk.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:25 am to Roman Candle Tag
Good talk indeed.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:26 am to 3putts
My little sister was a meth head. It eventually got her.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:28 am to Hetfield
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You are in the Biden family? Prayers.
All downvoters burn in Hell, scum.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:07 am to Roman Candle Tag
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Such a lazy response.
Try harder.
You ain't worth the effort.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:07 am to 3putts
Did you just call your sister a whore?
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:13 am to davyjones
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But the real issue with all the above is how so you tell who's who? Who's at one end of the spectrum or the other.
Even the ones that appear to have no real reason to be using often do under the surface. Even kids brought up in good homes, without poverty and abuse often suffer emotionally and mentally from some source and when the solution to those problems crosses their path, they take it.
And no matter what level of use you are on, it's probably effecting someone somewhere if you've crossed the line into addiction.
I don't bother trying to explain it to people who come from the mindset of "lock em all up and throw away the key." You have to at least be willing to learn to even both with.
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 2:25 am
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