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re: BREC is flush, Libraries are flush. But our DA needs money.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:02 pm to Cliff Booth
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:02 pm to Cliff Booth
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I am astounded at how easy every tax renewal passes, usually in a landslide.
Inner city Democrats who live in homes below the Homestead exemption of 75k will always vote for more free things. Multiply this by thousands in the inner city.
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:03 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Because the judges suck
Whether right or wrong, that's kind of irrelevant to the subject of the DA being funded
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:09 pm to Joshjrn
If you give more money to the DA to prosecute people just to have trials with shitty judges that work against what the DA is trying to do
Makes the tax a waste
That’s the way I see it. Lots of people in the city have been salivating at the thought of taking library money for years.
Let the people vote for it.
Makes the tax a waste
That’s the way I see it. Lots of people in the city have been salivating at the thought of taking library money for years.
Let the people vote for it.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:10 pm to Joshjrn
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You're misunderstanding me if you interpreted my post to mean I think EBR is a good steward of the money it has. I was simply explaining why the agency itself generally wants a dedicated tax.
I was just pointing out things that have happened in the past for those nee to the “game”.
I really don’t know what the answer is, but what we are doing now isn’t working. Right now on my radar I see them wanting a big storm water tax, a new tax for a juvenile prison, a new tax for a parish prison, and now a new tax for the DA.
Our parish needs to look at everything we do and establish some benchmarks. Maybe we need to maintain our parks and not build all these new ones. Maybe we don’t need so many libraries. Can the COA justify twice the tax money they initially asked us for? What’s going on with the Mental Health deal wd funded? Does anyone know?
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:13 pm to GreenRockTiger
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If you give more money to the DA to prosecute people just to have trials with shitty judges that work against what the DA is trying to do
Makes the tax a waste
I truly don't mean this in any kind of insulting way, but if you think the day to day at the 19th JDC is judges working against what the DA is trying to do, you should go spend a day or two sitting in a courtroom for a heavy motions docket. Thousands upon thousands of people move through the criminal courts at the 19th JDC every year; don't let the half dozen or so clickbaity news articles you read make you think people aren't getting smoked for significant jail time pretty much every day.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:16 pm to Joshjrn
quote:I worked at the library across the street for years
19th JDC
I have my own onions on how all that shite works.
Thanks.
quote:not enough are is my point
don't let the half dozen or so clickbaity news articles you read make you think people aren't getting smoked for significant jail time pretty much every day.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I worked at the library across the street for years
I have my own onions on how all that shite works.
Thanks.
I fail to see how that's responsive, but ok
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not enough are is my point
Again, I think that's coming from a place of ignorance, but I understand the root of the sentiment
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:24 pm to Joshjrn
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Thousands upon thousands of people move through the criminal courts at the 19th JDC every year; don't let the half dozen or so clickbaity news articles you read make you think people aren't getting smoked for significant jail time pretty much every day.
They are given what they earned. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:28 pm to Joshjrn
quote:because I’ve seen the busloads of prisoners driven in almost everyday from so many parishes
I fail to see how that's responsive, but ok
Been put on lockdown because of escaped prisoners
Told numerous people that I am not a lawyer because they wanted legal documents interpreted at the library
Coworkers lives threatened by escaped convicts
Judges taking the parking spot that I paid for because they were late (in a parking lot under city hall)
So you don’t need to tell me that there are heavy dockets. I’ve seen it. Why are there so many criminals on the streets then?
quote:I’ll ask again - why are there so many criminals in the streets?
think that's coming from a place of ignorance,
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:34 pm to GreenRockTiger
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because I’ve seen the busloads of prisoners driven in almost everyday from so many parishes
Been put on lockdown because of escaped prisoners
Told numerous people that I am not a lawyer because they wanted legal documents interpreted at the library
Coworkers lived threatened by escaped convicts
Judges taking the parking spot that I paid for because they were late
So you don’t need to tell me that there are heavy dockets. I’ve seen it. Why are there so many criminals on the streets then?
You misunderstood me. You said that judges are working against what the DA is trying to accomplish; I said you should go watch a few days of a heavy motions docket (because that would be the best day for it, as opposed to and arraignment or probation review date), because if you did, I think you would come away no longer believing the judges were working against the DA.
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I’ll ask again - why are there so many criminals in the streets?
Because we live in a parish of nearly half a million people and a high poverty rate? With that said, I've lived in Baton Rouge for two decades and have never, not once, been the victim of a crime. Acting as though we're just short of Haiti isn't reflecting of reality, in my experience.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:34 pm to GreenRockTiger
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not enough are is my point
Too many alleged felons are walking the streets while they are out on bond committing more violent crimes.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:36 pm to The People
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They are given what they earned. Nothing more, nothing less.
Whether they've earned it or not is irrelevant; my point was that judges in the 19th routinely slam people at the behest of the DA. The myth that they aren't is just silly.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:39 pm to Joshjrn
quote:so if the shitty judges are working with the DA, then no way I’m voting for taxes for the DA office
, I think you would come away no longer believing the judges were working against the DA
More people need to be put away
quote:I’ve been in BR since 2005, and I cannot say the same.
I've lived in Baton Rouge for two decades and have never, not once, been the victim of a crime.
quote:lame and trite excuse. No one poorer than my grandparents and they were not criminals
high poverty rate
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:41 pm to doubleb
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Too many alleged felons are walking the streets while they are out on bond committing more violent crimes.
That's more of a systemic problem than a judicial problem. Because of the way the Louisiana constitution is drafted, there is a heavy presumption that someone is entitled to monetary bond. I would vastly prefer we move to something like what the federal system uses, which is that someone is presumed released without bond unless they are a danger of violence or flight, then they are simply held without bond. Setting a monetary bond for nearly everything and just letting the chips fall where they may is the worst of all worlds, in my opinion. Good money for defense attorneys to handle the bond work, though.
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§18. Right to Bail
Section 18.(A) Excessive bail shall not be required. Before and during a trial, a person shall be bailable by sufficient surety, except when he is charged with a capital offense and the proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great. After conviction and before sentencing, a person shall be bailable if the maximum sentence which may be imposed is imprisonment for five years or less; and the judge may grant bail if the maximum sentence which may be imposed is imprisonment exceeding five years. After sentencing and until final judgment, a person shall be bailable if the sentence actually imposed is five years or less; and the judge may grant bail if the sentence actually imposed exceeds imprisonment for five years.
(B) However, a person charged with a crime of violence as defined by law or with production, manufacture, distribution, or dispensing or possession with intent to produce, manufacture, distribute, or dispense a controlled dangerous substance as defined by the Louisiana Controlled Dangerous Substances Law, and the proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great, shall not be bailable if, after a contradictory hearing, the judge or magistrate finds by clear and convincing evidence that there is a substantial risk that the person may flee or poses an imminent danger to any other person or the community.
Acts 1997, No. 1498, §1, approved Oct. 3, 1998, eff. Nov. 5, 1998.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:41 pm to Joshjrn
quote:it’s not
The myth that they aren't is just silly.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:42 pm to GreenRockTiger
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so if the shitty judges are working with the DA, then no way I’m voting for taxes for the DA office
More people need to be put away
So you say
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:42 pm to GreenRockTiger
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it’s not
How do you know?
Or let me guess, because there are criminals on the streets?
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:47 pm to doubleb
The Parish is legally obligated to fund most of the reasonable expenses of the DA.
Why should the public pay more taxes and free up parish monies for them to waste elsewhere?
Why should the public pay more taxes and free up parish monies for them to waste elsewhere?
Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:36 pm to LSULaw2009
Because the parish is not funding the DAs office like the law states it should.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 2:42 pm to btforlsu
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Because the parish is not funding the DAs office like the law states it should.
A big part of the problem is that when the city/parish was accounting for the projected reduction from St. George's incorporation, instead of making politically difficult decisions, it basically just slashed everyone a percentage of their budget. So the agencies that were already flush are still fine, but agencies that were already on the edge or underfunded are getting crushed this year.
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