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re: Breaking - nuke terror alert as plant guard killed in Belgium, ID, pass stolen
Posted on 3/26/16 at 6:33 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Posted on 3/26/16 at 6:33 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Some people will still argue that ISIS is not a problem
explain to me why this makes sense as a terrorist plot.
1) kill guard to take his access card
2) authorities find dead body in public place
3) card is cancelled
4) terrorists can no longer access nuke
5) plot is a failure
they wouldn't have let homeboys body be found if they were trying to access the plant. doesn't add up.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 6:36 pm
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Posted on 3/26/16 at 6:53 pm to bmy
Are you trying to say that people who blow themselves up for a living aren't the best strategists?
Posted on 3/26/16 at 7:35 pm to PsychTiger
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Are you trying to say that people who blow themselves up for a living aren't the best strategists?
Considering how successful some if their plots are I would argue the exact opposite.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 7:47 pm to fightin tigers
These guys are definitely smarter than the Belgiums trying to stop them.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:01 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
I think the word you are looking for is Belgians...
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 1:39 am
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:08 pm to Eurocat
This is as dumb a plot as someone killing me, stealing my ID badge and thinking none of my coworkers would notice. Do they fricking think that no one would notice. Even the guard at the gate would know. If they don't see you every day, they tend to look closely at your credentials.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:08 pm to terriblegreen
Muslims are a plague.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:32 pm to Godfather1
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A nuclear plant uses a different type of reaction (fusion) than a bomb (fission)
First off, this is completely wrong.
Second, as someone who operated a reactor in the navy for 6 years, there really isn't much he could do. One would need intimate knowledge of the plant and safety features to even come close to doing something dangerous. Even then, it would take an entire team of people with intimate knowledge to disable all of those features to get the reactor to melt down.
Assuming they could get it to melt down, the structure of the reactor would break down way too early before it would blow up. It's just a completely different set up. Now a hydrogen explosion popping the top off of the containment vessel post meltdown would release a lot of radiation (I.e. Chernobyl and Japan) but that's not going to happen.
The whole scenario is so far fetched.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 3:27 pm to PsychTiger
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Are you trying to say that people who blow themselves up for a living aren't the best strategists?
i'm trying to say that anyone who thinks this is part of an actual ISIS plot is a fricking moron
and the people planning the attacks certainly aren't idiots.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 4:10 pm to TheGasMan
They may not be trying to get into the control room to blow anything up. I worked at a nuclear plant for a few years, and it seems to me they'd take the I'd card just to get on the premises and try to tap some of the spent fuel waste. I don't know how European plants handle it, but in the US they just set out on concrete pads inside a double walled steel container. Just a little bit of alpha emitters that become airborne by being attached to regular bomb could cause a lot of death that would keep the body count rising for weeks after the fact.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 4:14 pm to BamaChemE
So, with your knowledge, how long does it take to get in one of these sealed containers?
How long would it take to get noticed?
How long would it take to get noticed?
Posted on 3/27/16 at 4:18 pm to Rhino5
I haven't been this scared since Ebola.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 4:24 pm to fightin tigers
Depends on how well you know patrol schedules and if there's a live camera on the containers. The pads usually aren't close to any of the main buildings and the fences around them were chain link with a pad lock on the gate. I'd suppose you could pop a hole in one with a railroad spike and a hammer pretty quickly, but if you're trying to leave quickly there'd be a HUGE mess as everything else drained out.
I never said that it'd be a foolproof or even workable strategy, but it'd certainly have a higher chance of success than trying to meltdown a reactor.
ETA: And if I ran security at a nuclear plant right now I'd put more emphasis on protecting them to ensure that it couldn't be accomplished.
I never said that it'd be a foolproof or even workable strategy, but it'd certainly have a higher chance of success than trying to meltdown a reactor.
ETA: And if I ran security at a nuclear plant right now I'd put more emphasis on protecting them to ensure that it couldn't be accomplished.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 4:27 pm
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