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re: BR Neighborhood in Top 25 Worst Neighborhoods in US
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:40 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:40 am to TheCaterpillar
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East St. Louis AINT NO JOKE
Took a wrong turn when visiting a pal and that hood is SCARY.
Actually reminded me of some Nola areas. Very decrepit and eery.
Kids, you see all that plight?
*gunshots*
OK, roll 'em up!
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:13 am to LSUvegasbombed
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cant wait for St George
And there we have the hidden elephant in the room...As one who was born in BR and thankfully raised a family in safer times...I was one of the last residents on our street to leave because of the crime (and this was in one of the nicer areas.). I can certainly understand the St. George people wanting to band together and try to keep their area schools, streets, and homes safe through proper uses of their taxes. If the movement fails, you will see a noticeable increase in a lot of these residents moving to more desirable places for their families.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:52 am to StanleyB
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Posted by StanleyB I hate to rain on the nola parade/progress, but all of these nice new taxpayer funded projects will be shitholes in 20 years.
Pretty much my fear too. I'm labelled a Nola hater for my pessimistic outlook.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:55 am to stampman
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And there we have the hidden elephant in the room...As one who was born in BR and thankfully raised a family in safer times...I was one of the last residents on our street to leave because of the crime (and this was in one of the nicer areas.). I can certainly understand the St. George people wanting to band together and try to keep their area schools, streets, and homes safe through proper uses of their taxes. If the movement fails, you will see a noticeable increase in a lot of these residents moving to more desirable places for their families.
Can't really hate on someone that wants a safer place for their family with better school. I live in Old Jefferson and for St. George.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:22 pm to trom83
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Can't really hate on someone that wants a safer place for their family with better school. I live in Old Jefferson and for St. George.
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:43 pm to trom83
That is directly behind my office. Awesome.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:48 pm to BigEdLSU
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Do they even gardere? Ghost town? Zion city? McDonald land? Glen oaks? Gus young (the park)? Brookstown?
I always hated Brookstown
Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:45 pm to udtiger
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And, to think, Bon Marche could not survive.
Something new was built to put a sparkle in everyone's eyes.
When I was a kid, 3rd street and Main Street was the epicenter of shopping in the city, and then Delmont and Bon Marche, then Cortana, and now the Mall of LA. What is constant though is the fact that every time they build a new area of commerce, the city just moves with it, and those other areas go to the shitter.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:55 pm to trom83
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Can't really hate on someone that wants a safer place for their family with better school. I live in Old Jefferson and for St. George.
So when does the Berlin Wall go up and the moat dug?
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I think it's so cute how you think changing the name or an imaginary line is going to protect you from crime that is a result of leaving those area once known as our city to be taken over by the worst of the worst of humanity.
It's not going to stop until we stop running and begin investing.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:21 pm to Mike da Tigah
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It's not going to stop until we stop running and begin investing.
are you going to buy a house in that neighborhood?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:33 pm to iAmBatman
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are you going to buy a house in that neighborhood?
Which one are you talking about?
Mall city isn't a neighborhood. It's a poorly thought out grouping of apartment complexes and abandoned buildings that once were the area to be for younger people, and now that they aren't new and shiny, they aren't so much anymore, yet directly across Florida from a very heavily demanded area with old growth trees, and a community that invests in itself.
That IS the difference. Give a shite, and the place will show it.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:35 pm to Mike da Tigah
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What is constant though is the fact that every time they build a new area of commerce, the city just moves with it,
you have it backwards
an area opens to develop and get away from the shite, so development occurs there.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:35 pm to Mike da Tigah
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It's not going to stop until we stop running and begin investing.
investment = gentrification = evil to the power people in those cultures
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is constant though is the fact that every time they build a new area of commerce, the city just moves with it,
you have it backwards
an area opens to develop and get away from the shite, so development occurs there.
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BR shopped on 3rd and Main, opened up Bon Marche, and people went to Bon Marche, and Goudchauxs and 3rd began to become ghost towns. Then they opened Cortana, and Bon Marche, not a mile down the street began to take a nose dive, and eventually fall into the deep end of the shitter. Then they built the Mall of Louisiana, and everyone stops going to Cortana, and it eventually takes a nose dive. Stay tuned. It's all but done as well.
The pattern is consistent with very little deviation... We build the new, and nobody wants the old anymore.
Populations shift to center themselves around commercial development. Man landed on the moon.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:48 pm to Sir Drinksalot
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Sprinkle the poor dangerous people in with the middle class to rich white people?
poor ==//== dangerous.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:52 pm to JOHNN
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Im all for building it better but where do the former residents move to once its finished and they cant afford to live there. The criminal element and poor people will just move to another area and run down that part of town.
So rebuilding is great but there has to be a joint effort to go full force with cracking down on crime.
you break up the groups. Most of the crime is the children of the renters. You move the renters around the kids will go with. But yes other areas will suffer. But get them in the east. The east has room for all. Plus there are always private slums for those others to go to.
I was in a lady's slum the other day. I went in her kitchen, it was too hot to enter. I tool a temp reading, it was 140* in her kitchen. She was using her oven as a heater on full blast.
I did my job but told the property owner to lose my number. I do not like working for slum lords.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:54 pm to kingbob
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Where at? Near The Chinese Restaurant? Oklahoma Street?
I rented a house right next to the red stick lofts. I wanted to buy it when I was looking for a place in BR after the storm, but the owner wanted $325k for it. I thought it was high. But then I found out there was a developer buying al those parcels.
That sucked too, as our house was built as a whorehouse. and was a part of local history.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:58 pm to trom83
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Wouldn't building up an area create more jobs, which would put more income in people's pocket, which would put more money in the city's economy.
Sure, if you could just manufacture an infinite amount of money and not have to take resources from something else to contribute them to this.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 3:04 pm to TheIndulger
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?
Honestly, yes. I could be wrong, but this is just me thinking out loud. I've always thought that the higher the value of the infrastructure and the surrounding area, the scum of society usually can't afford to live in that area.
Alot of these POS homes that these people live in were built in the 30's-40's, no? These are going to start to break down to nothing within the next 20-30 years and then what?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 3:05 pm to Napoleon
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you break up the groups. Most of the crime is the children of the renters. You move the renters around the kids will go with. But yes other areas will suffer. But get them in the east. The east has room for all. Plus there are always private slums for those others to go to. I was in a lady's slum the other day. I went in her kitchen, it was too hot to enter. I tool a temp reading, it was 140* in her kitchen. She was using her oven as a heater on full blast. I did my job but told the property owner to lose my number. I do not like working for slum lords
I think you're right, but I think it comes as a result of building shite, surrounded by quick money commercial answers and buildings reflecting quick money than any sense of a place that people will value long term. That and chain central creates this. Why live next to the old Strip mall when you can live next to the shiny new one? Ones like the other, but the other is prettier than the old one.
Those areas that are old and in heavy demand to this day, regardless of size and class all have similar things in common that are attractive to people who want to live in the city and enjoy what a city CAN offer them.
- Old growth trees
- Non track style BS, and much more character, yet a sense of design that doesn't have a 20 year window that when the buzzer goes off people evacuate.
- Sidewalks
- Bike friendly areas
- Nice Parks
- Located close to local independent businesses who are a part of the community and have a vested interest in its survival than a chain that just cuts it's losses and moves to where the market benefits it's them best with no concern whatsoever to the long term viability of said community.
Retail and neighborhoods work best when everyone has a vested interest in it being there long term. In other words, rather than "where you stay" it's "where you live"
You know the butcher, the baker, the barber, the beautician, the grocer, because their businesses they own are close to where they also call home. It matters.
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