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re: Books on diversity and inclusion coming to all EBR elementary schools
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:23 pm to Will Cover
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:23 pm to Will Cover
So you're going to force students in a school district that is 11% white and 74% black read about diversity and inclusion and expect that should help out in someway?
All this is is a way to give the largely white tax base of EBR's money to black owned shite. Thanks for using my money wisely, can't wait for St. George.
All this is is a way to give the largely white tax base of EBR's money to black owned shite. Thanks for using my money wisely, can't wait for St. George.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:23 pm to RealityTiger
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You fell out the progressive tree and hit every branch on the way down. I bet you jack off daily to AOC. Or no wait, that's not progressive enough. I bet you jack off to AOC and/or Bernie Sanders depending on what you identify as.
I'm horrified you're old enough to have children and talk like this.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:26 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:I know it's so terrible isn't it?
I'm horrified you're old enough to have children and talk like this.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:27 pm to RealityTiger
I'm horrified that he's horrified.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
What if the books are like this? Do you guys have a problem with that?
(can't find the page images that say we're different, but each of these has a previous page that says "we're different", then follows it up with "we're the same" which I've shown here)
(can't find the page images that say we're different, but each of these has a previous page that says "we're different", then follows it up with "we're the same" which I've shown here)
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:34 pm to Will Cover
Force feed underway.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:38 pm to CatfishJohn
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What if the books are like this? Do you guys have a problem with that?
I'll post it again, assuming you missed my direct questions to you on the previous page.
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Serious question - have you read any of these books being suggested?
We have small kids and have a few great Sesame Street books that talk about the irrelevance of skin color, types of hair, face structure, etc.
I think that's a good thing. I haven't seen any of these books saying that white people are bad.
I'll bite.
Have you kept abreast of the bigger push of anti-racism? All of these things filtering down are from this movement, not the other way around. Unless you're aware of THOSE authors and THOSE books, telling someone that because a certain kid's book doesn't currently seem to have anything you personally find objectionable is largely missing the point in the grand scheme, because they absolutely will.
So I'll ask...what does the term "anti-racism" mean to you? Same goes for "equity."
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:44 pm to CatfishJohn
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Why are you so mad at him for saying kids should learn about and get exposure to other cultures and backgrounds?
Why should my kid learn about the culture and background of North Baton Rouge?
Maybe the kids in North Baton Rouge should be learning how to get out of North Baton Rouge. The culture they are growing up in should not be taught, it should be eradicated.
I've read books with black characters to my kids. Who gives a shite. It wasn't a book about race, and it wasn't a book about growing up in the hood. It was just a normal kids book that teaches a lesson on how to act in society.
if you want to see the books from The Conscious Kid here
They break their books into two categories:
Confronting anti-blackness: books by black authors for ages 0-18
children's books to support conversations on race, racism, and resistance.
That doesn't sound like normal children books teaching a societal lesson where it's just a black character instead of a white one.
Here's one book
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For all the little progressives, waking up to sieze a new day of justice and activism. Woke babies are up early. Woke babies raise their fists in the air. Woke babies cry out for justice. Woke babies grow up to change the world. This lyrical and empowering book is both a celebration of what it means to be a baby and what it means to be woke. With bright playful art, Woke Baby is an anthem of hope in the world where the only limit to a skyscraper is more blue.
frick that and the pieces of shite that are using my tax money to buy this shite and to teach it to the children of EBR.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:48 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I'll bite.
Have you kept abreast of the bigger push of anti-racism? All of these things filtering down are from this movement, not the other way around. Unless you're aware of THOSE authors and THOSE books, telling someone that because a certain kid's book doesn't currently seem to have anything you personally find objectionable is largely missing the point in the grand scheme, because they absolutely will.
So I'll ask...what does the term "anti-racism" mean to you? Same goes for "equity."
You answered my very simple question with this longer, ridiculous question that is filled with opinion.
So answer mine first:
quote:
Serious question - have you read any of these books being suggested?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:49 pm to TeddyPadillac
I don't like that book nor the message it gives.
That is why I asked if anyone knew of any. That's a great substantive response, I appreciate it. I would be against kids reading that.
That is why I asked if anyone knew of any. That's a great substantive response, I appreciate it. I would be against kids reading that.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:57 pm to CatfishJohn
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Serious question - have you read any of these books being suggested?
Do you even realize that you linked a Sesame Street book that is NOT on this list and an example of the types of books in the list, while not bothering to list any of the ACTUAL ones? And you call my question ridiculous...
Fact is, this movement comes from the Anti-Racism movement which has nothing to do with your Sesame Street example, which is actually far more in line with MLK's words and thoughts most people actually hold. Anti-racism, despite the cute sounding term, is quite the opposite. From the leading proponent of anti-racism and the author of multiple books currently being forced into reading lists everywhere...
quote:
A discriminatory policy that produces equity is anti racist. A non discriminatory policy that produces inequity is a racist policy.
The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination” - Ibram X. Kendi
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:05 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Serious question - have you read any of these books being suggested?
Do you even realize that you linked a Sesame Street book that is NOT on this list and an example of the types of books in the list, while not bothering to list any of the ACTUAL ones? And you call my question ridiculous...
Fact is, this movement comes from the Anti-Racism movement which has nothing to do with your Sesame Street example, which is actually far more in line with MLK's words and thoughts most people actually hold. Anti-racism, despite the cute sounding term, is quite the opposite. From the leading proponent of anti-racism and the author of multiple books currently being forced into reading lists everywhere...
Yes I know. I'm capable of speaking to more than one person at once.
You still didn't answer the question
I'm done with you, you clearly don't want to have an adult conversation.
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and I said I didn't like the idea of my kids reading the book the other person shared.
You're just militant in thought and can't have open dialogue without assuming others are wrong. I asked simple questions in here, most weren't answered. I wanted to have a discussion because I didn't see the issue, but didn't know the books on the list either. You know, the courage to admit you don't know everything. More people should have that.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:06 pm to Will Cover
They’re gonna have books about white people? I taught in EBR and there’s not much diversity.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:15 pm to CatfishJohn
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You still didn't answer the question
I did not answer the question because it was irrelevant, given you had not either. You had not even bothered to link a book from the list in question before attempting to shame people here into agreeing with this policy. Unlike you it seems, I had bothered to go to the website mentioned in the article and look at the books actually ON the list when forming my opinion on this issue.
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You're just militant in thought and can't have open dialogue without assuming others are wrong. I asked simple questions in here, most weren't answered. I wanted to have a discussion because I didn't see the issue, but didn't know the books on the list either. You know, the courage to admit you don't know everything. More people should have that.
Why am I militant because I've researched the topic? I'd love to have a discussion about this topic, but first you'd need to acknowledge that there are other issues at play here and the issue is not as simple as your Sesame Street example. Unless you are aware of the push regarding anti-racism and equity for starters, you're honestly not informed enough to have the conversation. In fact, like you I asked a sincere question to you in regards to what you know about those terms, and you failed to answer both times.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
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For all the little progressives, waking up to sieze a new day of justice and activism. Woke babies are up early. Woke babies raise their fists in the air. Woke babies cry out for justice. Woke babies grow up to change the world. This lyrical and empowering book is both a celebration of what it means to be a baby and what it means to be woke. With bright playful art, Woke Baby is an anthem of hope in the world where the only limit to a skyscraper is more blue.
This is 100% pure CRT, which is nothing but Marxism in a new package, dividing people based on race instead of economic class.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:23 pm to Centinel
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This is 100% pure CRT, which is nothing but Marxism in a new package, dividing people based on race instead of economic class.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:58 pm to CatfishJohn
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I don't like that book nor the message it gives.
That is why I asked if anyone knew of any. That's a great substantive response, I appreciate it. I would be against kids reading that.
LINK
There is a link to the list of books. My daughter goes to an EBR Magnet school and just skimming through the titles and descriptions most seemed geared towards inspiring confidence in black children or black history. So I would not mind her reading some of them if she was interested in the topic.
I'm not really seeing anything like Diangelo's White Fragility for kids or CRT indoctrination type stuff. Although Woke Baby sounds a bit suspect..lol and All Boys Arent Blue.. about black transgendered men seems highly inappropriate for elementary kids. As far as I know they are just being put in the libraries...not assigned as reading in curriculum. So at least so far as the CRT indoctrination fears of some on this topic over these books seem a bit overblown. Its definitely something I'm concerned with though.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:08 pm to Will Cover
They need to be more focused on teaching math. My 10 year old EBR students didn’t know .25 = 1/4th.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:12 pm to Will Cover
So there will be books teaching the majority black children to stop bullying the minority white children at their school? Interesting.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:15 pm to tigergirl10
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They need to be more focused on teaching math. My 10 year old EBR students didn’t know .25 = 1/4th.
My daughter is 8 and in 3rd grade and we were going over fractions last night. She has gone to magnet and non magnet schools. In my experience its not the teachers who are the issue.
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