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re: Boeing 777X’s fuselage split dramatically during September stress test

Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:43 pm to
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Fuel burn rates.
Are nearly identical
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Pilot training. Military already has 767 pilots.

Aircraft maintenance and parts stock. Already has 767s.
What 767’s does the Air Force currently have?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:53 pm to
Identical fuel burn rates, the KC45 would have already been in service, a PROVEN design able to carry more fuel or cargo.

The difference? Blue state jobs vs Red.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3149 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:24 pm to
Fuel burn rate varies advantages vary by trip distance but yes, it is close. My point was that fuel capacity was not the only major concern.

Yes, I was mistaken on 767s being in the fleets. I was certain there was a 767 freighter but I guess it was the KC-767 stuck in my head.

My apologies on that one.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
1441 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:32 pm to
I dont want my american tax dollars spent with foreign defense contractors.
Keep the money at home.
frick airbus.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:37 pm to
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The Air Force wanted the KC45..but Obama wanted to give the contract to Washington State, a blue state, over Alabama, a red state. Which is what happened.


It had nothing to do with red state vs blue state. It was an exceptional AMERICAN company vs EU bottom feeder company. In the end when Boeing got the contract America won.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3149 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Wrong. the KC 45 was to be based on the A330 MRTT (Multi Role Tanker Transport) whose maiden flight was back in 2007. 

You don't know what you're talking about. The design was proven and the KC45 was to be fitted with the same components used by the A330 MRTT. The same refueling boom, same underwing pods and fuselage refueling unit. 




It was my understanding that Airbus was only supplying the airframe and Northrop was doing the refueling portion. What was Northrops role? I thought they were developing an advanced refueling system?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:50 pm to
I’m not sure a new refueling system would need to be developed. All NATO countries use standardized refueling probes if I’m not mistaken.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:54 pm to
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Are you still in the industry?


Not anymore. I ended up in Investment Banking. I still have a strong affinity for the industry and keep up with it some. I have done several deals in it.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3149 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:06 pm to
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I’m not sure a new refueling system would need to be developed. All NATO countries use standardized refueling probes if I’m not mistaken.



There was a recent issue with refueling F-15 planes with similar receptacles using the Airbus tanker. Not sure if it was new issue that just showed up or if it was during test phases.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 5:08 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:06 pm to
I have no knowledge of that. I do know that tanker has been in service with the UK, the Australians, UAE and the Saudis.

South Korea has accepted delivery in early 2019, the French are acquiring them, and others.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
1845 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:41 pm to
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I’m not sure a new refueling system would need to be developed. All NATO countries use standardized refueling probes if I’m not mistaken.


Sort of correct. Aircraft like the eurofighter2k and the rafale use the probe and drogue system(female end on tanker looking like a badminton shuttlecock and the male end is on the reciever aircraft) as does most of the us navy and marines. The USAF uses flying boom and receptacle system, the male end on the tanker and reciever is on the jet. Fun fact USAF Vietnam workhorse F-105 had both types of in flight refuelling capability
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:57 pm to
You are such a clown.
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