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re: Boeing 737 Crashes in China. 132 on board

Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:23 am to
Anybody else watch Air Disasters?

The good news is that most of these fatal crashes happen outside of the US.

The bad news is that sometimes a maintenance guy will forget an entire row of screws.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:24 am to
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The good news is that most of these fatal crashes happen outside of the US.


Probably because hiring and training standards in some areas is pretty ridiculous. Pakistan International Airlines recently went through such a scandal.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:27 am to
dam.. nothing but bits & pieces left at crash site
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41535 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:27 am to
Automation has become so widespread that a lot of younger pilots have no idea how to actually fly the plane when something goes wrong
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:28 am to
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Something less than ideal, like the fricking tail falling off, would be my guess.


Airframe failure like that is insanely rare for a modern plane.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14678 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:28 am to
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Which is why cruising bothers me more than take off or landing.


I believe far more incidents occur during takeoff and landing, and cruising is the “safest” part of a flight.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297020 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:28 am to
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Automation has become so widespread that a lot of younger pilots have no idea how to actually fly the plane when something goes wrong


There is some truth to that.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88781 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:29 am to
I'm going into a simulator today that is sitting right next to a 737 simulator, and a Max simulator at that!
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7078 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:30 am to
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I believe far more incidents occur during takeoff and landing, and cruising is the “safest” part of a flight.


It's incredible how far a skilled pilot can actually glide these planes with no engines.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40237 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:31 am to
My knowledge of planes flying begins and ends with "aviate, navigate, communicate".

I don't think I've ever seen a plane nose down like that before. I didn't even know a plane could actually get in that position at that speed.

Unless part of the plane was missing. I guess I could see that then.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:32 am to
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I'm going into a simulator today that is sitting right next to a 737 simulator, and a Max simulator at that!

Teas and peas bro
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:33 am to
I'm thinking failure of the jackscrew system in the tail. And Alaskan Airlines flight went down the same way after the nut sheared off the screw mechanism and the plane took a nosedive the same way this one did. I think I remember the cause being that it was not regularly lubricated.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297020 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:33 am to
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I believe far more incidents occur during takeoff and landing, and cruising is the “safest” part of a flight.


Correct. However, its over instantly at 1,000 feet. You have time to think about it at 30,000 feet.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:33 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40237 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:36 am to
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You have time to think about it at 30,000 feet.


I hope something happened at 30K feet that instantly killed all on board, so they did not have to witness that free fall.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41535 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:38 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297020 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:39 am to
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I hope something happened at 30K feet that instantly killed all on board, so they did not have to witness that free fall.


Absolutely. A 2-3 minute fall would be beyond terrifying.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179615 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:39 am to
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and I are flying to Vegas the first week of May



At least it's May. Flying into Vegas in June though about September sucks due to the heat thermals coming off of the mountains. The only time I came close to hurling from turbulence was flying into Vegas on a Cessna Citation II in the middle of August.

FYI, you are statistically more likely to get in a fatal car crash than die in a plane crash.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:47 am
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27130 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:40 am to
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Yeah, I saw Twitter video of the plane going down. It was vertical. Absolutely terrifying for those people.


What kind of Gs are you pulling in a dive like that? I wonder if a lot of folks passed out.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41535 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:41 am to
Looks like they gained some altitude around 8,000 ft. IF these numbers are correct.

This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 8:42 am
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