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re: Bloodiest battle from each major American war/conflict

Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:21 pm to
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World War II: The Battle of Normandy (June 6-August 30, 1944) - 124394 total U.S. casualties;


I think about it often.. how brave and badarse those kids were riding in that boat across choppy seas into the teeth of a madman who knows you’re coming and has crisscrossed the beaches with machine guns waiting for you.

And they saved the world. Thankful for
Them for sure.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Meuse Argonne or Normandy campaign consisted of many full scale battles.


So did the Marne, the Somme, 1st Ypres, 2nd Ypres, 3rd Ypres, Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, Hurtgen Forest, Ardennes Forest, and Berlin.

The battlefield got bigger because armies got bigger, technology got better, and tactics evolved.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:43 pm to
Worked in Camden, S.C. last week.
I just went through their little museum there and it seems we got our asses kicked running away.
I was not aware of this battle until then.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:55 pm to
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I get the impression that the Brits were almost like, why are we even doing this?

The British had a ton of troops in the Colonies. They were just all sipping tea in NYC the whole War.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Persian Gulf War: The Battle of Norfolk (February 27, 1991) - 130 total U.S. casualties; 42 total British casualties; 21000 total Iraqi casualties.


Hell on Wheels
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Worked in Camden, S.C. last week.
I just went through their little museum there and it seems we got our asses kicked running away.
I was not aware of this battle until then.


You have never seen The Patriot? The Battle of Camden makes a pretty legit cameo about midway through the film:

Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:10 pm to
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The Boat

No cap, they didn’t want the smoke.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8679 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:13 pm to
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quote:
War of the Rebellion:


War of Northern Agression

Fixed it for you



War For Southern Independence. Fixed it for both of yall.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103558 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:17 pm to
Always heard Antietam was the "bloodiest" battle in all US wars... was it just bloodiest single day?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Always heard Antietam was the "bloodiest" battle in all US wars... was it just bloodiest single day?



Yes. It was the bloodiest single day in American history with 22,700 combined casualties between the two armies for the day. By comparison, the Allies suffered an estimated 10,000 casualties combined on D-Day.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32498 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:20 pm to
Do casualties = fatalities here?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103558 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:21 pm to
Casualties generally include wounded.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Do casualties = fatalities here?



No. A "casualty" is a catch all for anything that takes a soldier out of action. That could mean they were killed, wounded, or captured by the enemy.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 2:22 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175899 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:32 pm to
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No. A "casualty" is a catch all for anything that takes a soldier out of action. That could mean they were killed, wounded, or captured by the enemy.

Battle of Brooklyn Heights had more casualties if you include captured. Then almost 3,000 were captured at Ft Washington. The Camden numbers don’t include captured.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:38 pm to
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not to stir up the hornets nest but we won the Vietnam war in every statistical category except time of possession, we absolutely kicked their arse and just walked away


Which makes it even more infuriating,

Just like Afghanistan and Iraq.


We spilled a generation of blood and treasure only to come out with what? Essentially nothing.

The only ones who profited were the MIC and the politicians.

Makes me sick
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Battle of Brooklyn Heights had more casualties if you include captured. Then almost 3,000 were captured at Ft Washington. The Camden numbers don’t include captured.



Camden and Long Island have similar casualty figures for the Americans when you include captured with the former battle.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3415 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:39 pm to
“The Patriot” was the correct answer.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69856 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Just like Afghanistan and Iraq.


Meh. I think we won in Iraq in the end. We spilled a lot of American blood but the government we set up in the aftermath of the 2003 invasion remains intact and (more or less) stable.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
The largest casualty scale of the Napoleonic Wars was the Battle of Leipzig in 1813.

It had the most casualties in human history until the battles of WWI.

The casualty estimates for both sides are 80,000 to 110,000.


Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37760 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:50 pm to
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not to stir up the hornets nest but we won the Vietnam war in every statistical category except time of possession, we absolutely kicked their arse and just walked away

It’s amazing how wrong the general perception of that is today.
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