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re: Blinking yellow left turn arrows will become widespread in Baton Rouge area streets
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:38 am to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:38 am to Open Your Eyes
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but in the video the crash happens regardless of whether lane 5 has a flashing yellow or solid green
If you have a FYA, then you can phase it so that the LT turns red at the same time as the opposing through.
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:44 am to goofball
That’s right. Been using them in Georgia for 5 or 6 years with no problems.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:44 am to pvilleguru
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North through is turning red.
North left turn remains permissive. South through remains green. South left turn is about to turn protected green.
So north through is stopped, north left is yielding to south, south through is open, and south left is protected?
I can’t recall ever going through an intersection with these parameters. The only times I’ve ever seen protected left turns is when both north and south have them at the same time with both north and south throughs stopped, or when one direction is completely stopped. So south having both red, north having green through and protected left.
Even still, in the scenario you proposed, what is the difference in having a solid green for north left instead of a flashing yellow? The permissions and right of ways would be the same.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:47 am to BitBuster
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Lafayette has that shite and I've seen a ton of accidents because of it. Older people have it ingrained in their brain that the next light after Red is Green. When it goes from Red to flashing yellow, they go, and get smoked by oncoming traffic.
Must be idiots in Lafayette. Works great where I live.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:48 am to BitBuster
quote:Nah. You haven't.
I've seen a ton of accidents because of it.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:52 am to Big Scrub TX
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Nah. You haven't.
Quiet you. We must resist any effort to improve anything around here.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:59 am to Open Your Eyes
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The only times I’ve ever seen protected left turns is when both north and south have them at the same time with both north and south throughs stopped, or when one direction is completely stopped. So south having both red, north having green through and protected left.
Probably because you haven't been anywhere with FYA's.
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Even still, in the scenario you proposed, what is the difference in having a solid green for north left instead of a flashing yellow? The permissions and right of ways would be the same.
As I said on the previous page, you can't have a circular green on a signal head specifically for the LT lane. It has to be an arrow. If you only have a green arrow, one yellow arrow, and a red, then the LT has to be protected only. The only way to make that protected/permissive is to add a flashing yellow arrow.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:11 pm to pvilleguru
You can't put a circular green on a LT signal because it's too easy for someone in the through lane to look up, see the green ball, and blow through the red light.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:13 pm to goofball
Got t he em in Monroe, love them
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:21 pm to ChuckM
works pretty well in Mississippi...
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:36 pm to pvilleguru
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Probably because you haven't been anywhere with FYA's.
I’ve lived in a state with flashing yellow’s for the last decade.
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As I said on the previous page, you can't have a circular green on a signal head specifically for the LT lane. It has to be an arrow.
Did this change recently? Because I’m not sure how old these pictures are but:
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:46 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Did this change recently? Because I’m not sure how old these pictures are but:
I quoted it straight out of the 2009 MUTCD. Some states have their own, but it looks like those left-most signals are supplementing the two signals on the right. It's also possible that they have just been that way for ever and haven't been updated recently. The 2003 edition has far less guidance on that than the 2009 (the latest) edition.
And that R10-12 sign should be on the left side of the signal.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:49 pm to goofball
They are are ONLY time you will face an yellow or amber turn signal that gives other drivers the green light at the same time. If anything it should be a blinking red arrow to warn you that if anything happens you are in the wrong.
It happened to me in Lafayette right after they were installed. I encountered one without knowing what it was. I was in a left turn lane. I actually thought it was a malfunction. a car behind me was tapping their horn and I didn't see any oncoming traffic so I went. There was a woman pulling alway from the curb on the other side of the road heading towards me. She didn't see me because she was looking backwards for oncoming traffic.
We barely touched. There was no mark on my truck. Her front turn signal plastic covering had a very small crack.
So I stop and we call the cops and I tell them the truth. Final result I got a ticket. The woman settled with my insurance company for $10,000 in 2 days. My rates almost doubled.
frick State Farm and the Louisiana Insurance Commission.
Moral of the story: move to Texas.
It happened to me in Lafayette right after they were installed. I encountered one without knowing what it was. I was in a left turn lane. I actually thought it was a malfunction. a car behind me was tapping their horn and I didn't see any oncoming traffic so I went. There was a woman pulling alway from the curb on the other side of the road heading towards me. She didn't see me because she was looking backwards for oncoming traffic.
We barely touched. There was no mark on my truck. Her front turn signal plastic covering had a very small crack.
So I stop and we call the cops and I tell them the truth. Final result I got a ticket. The woman settled with my insurance company for $10,000 in 2 days. My rates almost doubled.
frick State Farm and the Louisiana Insurance Commission.
Moral of the story: move to Texas.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:55 pm to Swazla
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If anything it should be a blinking red arrow to warn you that if anything happens you are in the wrong
The flashing yellow arrow tells you that. A flashing red arrow means you have to stop before going. Flashing yellow means yield.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:01 pm to goofball
They already are common in Lafayette now.
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