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re: Birds Strike Back: Russian Airbus A321 makes belly landing in Corn Field

Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:00 pm to
Meh
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:23 pm to
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The most surprising thing to me about this incident is learning there are cornfields that close to Moscow.



It was flying out of Zhukovsky airport which is south east of the city a good ways.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19295 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:30 pm to
So 777Tiger is now A321Tiger?
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
4072 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:33 pm to
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decent glider,


777Tiger, wasn't that an Airbus that ran out of fuel over no where Canada and deadsticked to a rural town airport that just kind of appeared? Mid 90's maybe. Longer it stays in the air the more options you have.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19295 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:34 pm to
Gimli Glider. 767
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4821 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:36 pm to
Russian FA >>> American FA
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:37 pm to
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hold my vodka

Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19466 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:41 pm to
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wasn't that an Airbus that ran out of fuel over no where Canada and deadsticked to a rural town airport that just kind of appeared? Mid 90's maybe. Longer it stays in the air the more options you have.


I don't remember that one but remember Air Transat 236 that ran out of fuel over the Atlantic Ocean;

quote:

At 05:45 UTC, the pilots decided to divert to Lajes Air Base in the Azores. They declared a fuel emergency with Santa Maria Oceanic air traffic control three minutes later.

At 06:13 UTC, while still 150 nautical miles (280 km; 170 mi) from Lajes and at 39,000 feet (12,000 m), engine #2 flamed out due to fuel starvation.[4] Captain Piché then initiated a descent to 33,000 feet (10,000 m), which was the proper single-engine altitude for the weight of the plane at that time. Ten minutes later, the crew sent a Mayday to Santa Maria Oceanic air traffic control.

Three minutes later, at 06:26 UTC and approximately 65 nautical miles (120 km; 75 mi) from Lajes Air Base, engine #1 also flamed out, requiring the plane to glide the remaining distance.[4](p8) Without engine power, the plane lost its primary source of electrical power. The emergency ram air turbine deployed automatically to provide essential power for critical sensors and instruments to fly the aircraft. However, the aircraft lost its main hydraulic power, which operates the flaps, alternate brakes, and spoilers. The slats would still be powered, however, when the flaps #1 position was selected. Five minutes later, at 6:31 UTC, the oxygen masks dropped down in the passenger cabin.[4](p9)

Military air traffic controllers guided the aircraft to the airport with their radar system. The descent rate of the plane was about 2,000 feet (600 metres) per minute. They calculated they had about 15 to 20 minutes left before they would be forced to ditch in the ocean. The air base was sighted a few minutes later. Captain Piché had to execute one 360-degree turn, and then a series of "S" turns, to dissipate excess altitude.

At 06:45 UTC, the plane touched down hard, approximately 1,030 feet (310 m) past the threshold of Runway 33, at a speed of approximately 200 knots (370 km/h; 230 mph), bounced once and then touched down again, approximately 2,800 feet (850 m) from the threshold. Maximum emergency braking was applied and retained, and the plane came to a stop 7,600 feet (2,300 m) from the threshold of the 10,000-foot (3,000 m) runway. Since the anti-skid and brake modulation systems were inoperative, the eight main wheels locked up; the tires abraded and fully deflated within 450 feet (140 m).[4](p11) Fourteen passengers and two crew members suffered minor injuries, while two passengers suffered serious injuries during the evacuation of the aircraft. The plane suffered structural damage to the main landing gear and the lower fuselage.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 2:10 pm to
In Russia, bird wings you.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92253 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 2:12 pm to
Nah, it was a 767, dumbass canucks ran out of gas because they were didn’t convert liters to pounds, pretty stupid, landed on an old drag strip
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92253 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 2:23 pm to
Hell to the nah baw! Was out doing some training and jumped in an airbus sim with a friend who is an airbus check airman.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33489 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 2:25 pm to
Who’s gonna pay for that farmer’s lost crops?

Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3312 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 2:52 pm to
But Ukranian corn is weak...
(Said in my best Kramer voice)

Seriously though question for 777....does the APU put out enough juice to allow deployment of the langing gear on these type of jets?
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
4632 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20610 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:30 pm to
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777Tiger



So do you fly the 321 or the 777?
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20610 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:32 pm to
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Seriously though question for 777....does the APU put out enough juice to allow deployment of the langing gear on these type of jets?



Part of the certification process is for the gear to deploy via gravity. At only 750, there is no way the pilots had time to activate the APU.

Interesting tidbit, the team who designed the A380 could not get them to drop during tests and it took a brand new intern to decide to grease the gear bay along the tires to slide down. I think the whole process takes 60 seconds.
Posted by maxxrajun70
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2011
3726 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:39 pm to
I can see.. I can see.. im going blind...im going bliiinnnndd
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5800 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Thing didn't even break up


im sure itll be back in the air in no time.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:47 pm to
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Part of the certification process is for the gear to deploy via gravity. At only 750, there is no way the pilots had time to activate the APU.

What interested me is that in the story up there about the plane that ran out of go juice over the ocean is that the APU deployed, but they still had no hydraulics.

1) As long as the system is still sealed, I'm assuming you can still monkeyfrick the controls and move the control surfaces without hydraulic assist, but it's hard as hell. You know, just like steering your car when the engine dies.
2) How much power do the hydraulic pumps require if the APU can't power them?
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:50 pm to
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None of the injuries were serious. Pilot is a hero.




Absolutely, cool as a cucumber to pull that off
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