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re: Biggest lesson thus far for the state---we need to decentralize electricity production
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:55 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:55 pm to I B Freeman
Don't disagree. 50 MW Nuscale nukes, buried in the ground, distributed as load dictates.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:55 pm to I B Freeman
Why do you want higher rates?
Louisiana is one of the lowest cost for electricity in the nation.
Shut up and enjoy.
Once your fricked up New Orleans powers comes back.
Louisiana is one of the lowest cost for electricity in the nation.
Shut up and enjoy.
Once your fricked up New Orleans powers comes back.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:04 pm to I B Freeman
I always laugh when people shout for “deregulation” and “competition” whenever there is a storm or major outage. As if that would somehow solve the grid situation.
There would still only be one company that owns the transmission/ distribution infrastructure, genius.
There would still only be one company that owns the transmission/ distribution infrastructure, genius.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:13 pm to Bullfrog
Shhhh
He thinks energy can be like Bitcoin
He thinks energy can be like Bitcoin
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:33 pm to Bullfrog
quote:
Why do you want higher rates? Louisiana is one of the lowest cost for electricity in the nation. Shut up and enjoy. Once your fricked up New Orleans powers comes back.
Lol tell ya what, go do some research on how many times they’ve submitted requests to the public oversight to enable higher rates.
These utility companies don’t GAF about you. The PSC is the only thing saving you from $.24 per kWh
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:36 pm to I B Freeman
quote:lived in both regulated and deregulated in various locations. The fact is you need centralized power/utilities. And when it’s “de-regulated” that is just middle men who handle customer service, sales, distribution for the centralized power provider. You need centralized for disasters and economies of scale for the infrastructure investment.
Deregulate power generation in Louisiana today!!! I want five or six choice of power companies like people have in Texas.
I’m my experience, having a solid governing group negotiating with a power company for a certain area/city works better than de-regulated middle men shenanigans. BUT, you have to have a solid governing power capable of maintaining and watching the contract. Can easily become corrupt or just flat out shite prices/services for the end users, you and I - without good governance.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:57 pm to I B Freeman
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Deregulate power generation in Louisiana today!!! I want five or six choice of power companies like people have in Texas.
Except that when you choose a power generation company, you’re just buying numbers in a ledger.
All of the generators in Texas share the same grid. You can’t choose to buy electrons from a specific generator, any more than you could choose to buy water molecules from a specific pump station if they were owned by separate companies. The same tree branch will knock out your power whether you’re buying at a locked-in rate or paying $999/kWh on Griddy.
Texas’ de-regulated market may drive down generation costs and might even help increase the reliability of power generators - although the fiasco earlier this year does call that into question. It does not, however, make much difference to the reliability of the grid as a whole.
Yes, you do wind up with more transmission lines in general if there are more power plants. But that doesn’t mean there will be more feeds into, say, NOLA. Ultimately those types of infrastructure decisions fall on the grid operator.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:44 pm to doubleb
Only during off peak times on campus like 3 am in the summer. When campus is running full tilt I think they could meet 35-40% of demand. It could be more now if they have upgraded it since I last took a tour of it.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:23 pm to I B Freeman
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Most all of the plants along the River produce their own power.
I don’t feel this is accurate. They may transform their own - tell the power company to just get it to them then they’ll deal with it - but actually generating their own electricity??? Maybe a couple of plants supplement their consumption by burning some of their byproducts, but I don’t see “most” of them competing with the efficiency of the power company.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:41 am to Shankopotomus
That is exactly why the state should get out of and should prohibit local governments from being involved in licensing power generation plants.
Any one thinks the PSC is really helping the citizens of Louisiana in naive. The PSC thinks they are helping but there is no way they can central plan the electrical needs of Louisiana.
There was a big stink just this past month about a solar field planned in Tangipahoa Parish. I don’t think Entergy should be required to buy that electricity as I understand the politicians are making them do BUT I fully support anybody that wants to build power generation in the state and market it themselves.
Yes delivery lines are going to be monopolies and those monopolies should be customers of the generators not the consumers. Those generators will ensure the infrastructure is well taken care of.
It is really foolish to have transmission lines crossing the lake. The same investment could build several NG plants on the Northshore. Grid connections for New Orleans could be to the west and east as several are already.
Deregulation in Texas over the long run did not raise rates—it lowered them. I know a guy in West Texas that pays nothing for electricity at night but a lot for day time use. It fits his lifestyle. (You could hang meat in his house at night but don’t expect any Ac in the daytime.)
Any one thinks the PSC is really helping the citizens of Louisiana in naive. The PSC thinks they are helping but there is no way they can central plan the electrical needs of Louisiana.
There was a big stink just this past month about a solar field planned in Tangipahoa Parish. I don’t think Entergy should be required to buy that electricity as I understand the politicians are making them do BUT I fully support anybody that wants to build power generation in the state and market it themselves.
Yes delivery lines are going to be monopolies and those monopolies should be customers of the generators not the consumers. Those generators will ensure the infrastructure is well taken care of.
It is really foolish to have transmission lines crossing the lake. The same investment could build several NG plants on the Northshore. Grid connections for New Orleans could be to the west and east as several are already.
Deregulation in Texas over the long run did not raise rates—it lowered them. I know a guy in West Texas that pays nothing for electricity at night but a lot for day time use. It fits his lifestyle. (You could hang meat in his house at night but don’t expect any Ac in the daytime.)
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:42 am to bscott
I laugh at anyone so foolish to think more power generation plants do not improve the quality of the grid.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:45 am to SlapahoeTribe
Most may not but the map I posted proves the point that many do.
Those gas turbine plants produce a lot of juice in a little footprint.
Those gas turbine plants produce a lot of juice in a little footprint.
Posted on 9/2/21 at 6:04 am to I B Freeman
Decentralized power would help out a lot, but the costs could be prohibitive.
Right now I am sitting in the dark in Houma with out power for the next few weeks.
Houma has its own power plant, but it got hit hard by the storm. In the infinite wisdom of local officials several years ago, Houma partnered with other LEPA members to build a natural gas plant in Morgan City to replace their plant.
The price per MWH to construct and maintain were way too high. Also the bonding costs used to finance the project were high. It was funny that they didn’t try to finance the project as a green energy since it was an efficient natural gas plant. Also, several problems have crippled the plant.
So if we build smaller plants, they need to be efficient and have decent overhead.
Right now I am sitting in the dark in Houma with out power for the next few weeks.
Houma has its own power plant, but it got hit hard by the storm. In the infinite wisdom of local officials several years ago, Houma partnered with other LEPA members to build a natural gas plant in Morgan City to replace their plant.
The price per MWH to construct and maintain were way too high. Also the bonding costs used to finance the project were high. It was funny that they didn’t try to finance the project as a green energy since it was an efficient natural gas plant. Also, several problems have crippled the plant.
So if we build smaller plants, they need to be efficient and have decent overhead.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 6:06 am
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:54 am to I B Freeman
Solar panels on every roof and battery packs installed in/around homes.
It will take a while to get there but a lot of these problems will be alleviated by that. Of course it won't be perfect. Panels will get damaged by debris/wind/etc.
But it would be a helluva lot better than the current set up.
It will take a while to get there but a lot of these problems will be alleviated by that. Of course it won't be perfect. Panels will get damaged by debris/wind/etc.
But it would be a helluva lot better than the current set up.
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