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re: Big fire/explosion in Tangipahoa Parish

Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75997 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

but any sealed tank with that much heat surrounding it is going to go BOOM eventually. Is that what happened here, or did they just melt from the intense heat?


Considered a bleve. Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion.

No where near enough info to know if a bleve happened or if the tank just weakened and gave way

Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2058 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:11 pm to
Never mind. I have no idea how to attach a video someone sent me.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52878 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:35 am to
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what difference does it make?


The difference of someone making up bullshite that is 100% wrong and because they don’t get called out on it, others parrot the bullshite as fact
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29913 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:27 am to
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I was pointing out it that “incomplete combustion” doesn’t mean oil in the smoke. The oil in the smoke is for different reasons.


I can't make this be accurate. The first part is accurate but in this scenario the chances there wasn't some unburned or partially burned hydrocarbons (generically here oil, but also things you wouldn;t call oil) released is vanishingly close to zero; you did account for that. However, the "oil" (unburned hydrocarbons) in the smoke would have been 100% due to incomplete combustion. Don't suggest it was just boiled off because being boiled off and not completely burned IS the reason it is in the smoke. The higher vapor pressure solvents probably got closer to or maybe say full combustion, the lower vapor pressure oils were the main issue.

Complete combustion of a hydrocarbon gives only water vapor and carbon dioxide as the products.

Incomplete combustion will give you some water vapor, carbon dioxide (from the areas of the fire where the temp was high enough and air at ideal stoichiometric ratio with the fuel) but also have carbon monoxide, soot (which is pure carbon), unburned/partially burned hydrocarbons, NOx and SOx and most worrying, Dioxins and PHAS. It is almost certain that all of these products were present.

It is important to note that all these products are present in the product of even systems designed for highly efficient burning of hydrocarbons. Things like air fuel mixing, how far from stoichiometric balance the resulting pre-combustion mix is, fluid dynamics, flame front movement, temperatures, compression, et al.

It is also almost certain the "fallout" is not homogeneous, as winds and precip, the fuel's combustion levels and the actual fuels burning changed over time ie there could be high level of dioxins deposited in some areas and very low levels in others.
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
461 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:22 pm to
Bump for any possible updates on this.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46125 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 8:26 pm to
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I can't make this be accurate.

the educated man’s version of “bless your heart”
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11300 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:52 am to
I saw the EPA is taking over.

Fox 8

In my convoluted brain, I immediately thought of the Simpsons movie.

I wonder if they are going to fly a dome over the site.


Or if any Roseland grandpa had an episode the week before. Yelling out, a twisted tail, a thousand eyes, trapped forever, EPA, EPA, EPA!

Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
724 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Marge: Homer you have to go out there, face that mob and apologize for what you did

Homer: i would but I'm afraid if i open the door they'll take all of you!

Carl: no we won't! We just want Homer!

Homer: well maybe not you but they'll kill grandpa!

Grandpa: I'm part of the mob!
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42880 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:27 pm to
Any updates?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21679 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:28 pm to
The Tangipahoa River had a sheen of oil on it this morning in Robert.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42880 posts
Posted on 8/25/25 at 2:45 pm to
Anything as official reporting?

Details from the start etc.

Est. of total loss?
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