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re: Bieber's actions blamed on steroid use (Clenbuterol)
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:50 pm to PhiTiger1764
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:50 pm to PhiTiger1764
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To me, he is just another one of the millions of 19 year old dudes on this planet that I don't give a frick about. Nothing he does affects my life in any way.
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
We're good 
Check my post history and low post count. I always jump in to drug threads. Structurally, clenbuterol is very similar to albuterol and colterol. The chlorines significantly affect potency, lipophilicity, and half-life (difficult to metabolize). Albuterol, formoterol, and salmeterol are our go to drugs for breathing problems.
Check my post history and low post count. I always jump in to drug threads. Structurally, clenbuterol is very similar to albuterol and colterol. The chlorines significantly affect potency, lipophilicity, and half-life (difficult to metabolize). Albuterol, formoterol, and salmeterol are our go to drugs for breathing problems.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 4:54 pm to arseinclarse
Clen isn't a steroid, it's an extremely dangerous drug that heats your body up, forcing you to bun fat.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:01 pm to Elephino
Good to have you around. I know who to pay attention to on drug related questions now.
And the specialty in medicinal chemistry is pretty bad arse. Applicational as well as textbook knowledge.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:08 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
whole lotta wrong shite posted in this thread. it is not a thyroid agent. it is not a steroid, though it is slightly anabolic.. it does not effect your thought process. race horses do take clen all the time.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:11 pm to The Spectrum
Thanks. I was already corrected though.
Should have said not an anabolic steroid either. I doubt people think of corticosteroids as steroidsi either when used like the article used it.
Should have said not an anabolic steroid either. I doubt people think of corticosteroids as steroidsi either when used like the article used it.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:14 pm to Elephino
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I have a PhD in pharmaceutical sciences with a specialty in medicinal chemistry.
I have no opinion on this debate, but just wanted to say that this is a really big accomplishment. My wife just graduated in December with her PhD in Pharmacodynamics
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:15 pm to The Spectrum
Just like in your post. Read back through the whole thread. It is not a steroid of any kind. It is a beta2 adrenergic drug based off of the original structure of epinephrine.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:17 pm to SaintCajun
He doesn't realize you have to lift as well. Plus the judge will laugh at that defense and the da will be interested about where he got them.
What a dumbass.
What a dumbass.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:34 pm to arseinclarse
I would love to get my hands on steroids, but don't think I would ever touch Clen. I may be wrong, but I didn't even think Clen was a type of steroids.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:34 pm to Pheeebs
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I have a PhD in pharmaceutical sciences with a specialty in medicinal chemistry.
Like you know anything about the subject at hand.
A joke of course.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:37 pm to Indfanfromcol
Guys I lifted for a long time.
My advice to all of you interested in steriods, don't.
Just lift natural with natural proteins.
I seriously doubt any of you will be drafted by a professional team. If you are, they are still illegal and do damage to the body. Just ask the PhD, he will fill ya'll in.
My advice to all of you interested in steriods, don't.
Just lift natural with natural proteins.
I seriously doubt any of you will be drafted by a professional team. If you are, they are still illegal and do damage to the body. Just ask the PhD, he will fill ya'll in.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:38 pm to Elephino
Where you teach at boss?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:42 pm to Dr. Shultz
I'm sure this has been said already, but clenbuterol is a fat shedding favorite drug among bodybuilders. Clen raises your body temperature which fires up your metabolism so your burning calories at a normal state.
Don't think Beebs is taking this.
Don't think Beebs is taking this.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:44 pm to Kcrad
Well I don't know about others, but I don't think anyone in this thread and past threads are looking to make a pro team, but maybe take differemt step in something that is a part of my every day life.
I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:53 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
Stick natural. I did two cycles of diabonal back in the early 80's, haven't pouched them since.
The idea of working out is to improve your physical health, adding steroids do just the opposite.
Leave your illegal drug strawman at home. Steriods are illegal, too. Unless you find a quack who will prescribe them to you.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:58 pm to Indfanfromcol
I actually teach an elective in vitamins, herbals, and neutriceuticals. I would love some anecdotal accounts from people who have used high dose HMB or tongkat ali (ingredient from some testojack varieties). Yes, I even lift bro. Usually I have my blood drawn in class and pick a supplement to test every year. Anecdotally, I can tell you that high dose raspberry ketone is shite (you will burp raspberries). TTA (tetradecylthioacetic acid) did lower my cholesterol. I will have the current results from this year's high dose beta-sitosterol around St. Patricks day.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:14 pm to Indfanfromcol
Let me see if I can refute your "not worse than" assertion in a way you can understand. Steroids target nuclear receptors, which means they have several barriers to overcome in order to reach their target. Generally speaking, the greasier (carbon to noncarbon ratio) the steroid, the better. Unfortunately, greasy drugs need to be made less greasy/more soluble for clearance. Most of this happens in the liver; hence, greater liver toxicity. Also, lifting weights naturally increases bone density and strengthens muscle attachment points to bones (ligaments,tendons). Anabolic steroids cause muscle growth and strength to outpace this natural process, which leads to an increase in bone and joint damage.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:18 pm to arseinclarse
Beibs has good muscle insertions.
He will eventually be quite aesthetic, if he keeps working at it, although he is very short.
He will eventually be quite aesthetic, if he keeps working at it, although he is very short.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:20 pm to Elephino
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 7:12 pm
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