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re: Best video breakdown of the Cincinnati Tensing/Dubose shooting I have seen yet

Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Typically I see cops have their guns secured in their holster with a buttoned down strap. It is amazing to me that in two seconds fear of he was going to be killed popped into his head, he reaches for his weapon, removes it from the holster and aims it at the guys head and then pulls the trigger. That is an incredible amount of things to happen in TWO mississippis!


In training, I've been timed at taking 1.3 seconds to draw and fire 2 rounds on target. Not hard.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:53 pm to
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So you've never done something stupid? We all do stupid shite. Everybody makes mistakes


If you're asking me have I ever tried to flee from a cop...

No

I did swipe a marathon candy bar when I was 8 at the Quick Stop.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:05 pm to
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cop or not...if i'm carrying a gun and you try to run over me you're getting shot.


All the cop had to do was pull his arms out of the vehicle, get the tag#, calmly pursue or follow up. No need to have his weapon out. His life was never in danger.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 6:04 pm to
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Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:08 pm to
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True, but is that the standard you want from police now. Flee if you're able so the police can chase you in a motor vehicle risking other people's lives.
No. But that's more ideal than cops shooting people in the head.

In fact, given that the shot caused the car to drive forward without anyone to control it, the officer's actions not only caused the death of the driver, it actually put others at risk. It was about the worst possible action.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:32 pm to
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Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:39 pm to
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So fleeing from an officer is ok in your book? You can't have it both ways.
No. Fleeing an officer is not OK, but unnecessarily shooting a fleeing person is worse. Quit trying to create a false dichotomy.

Just like I don't condone a teenager talking back to his/her parents, but that doesn't mean parents should be able to beat the crap out of that back-talking teenager.

I've seen your shtick in similar threads before. You're trolling; hence, your ridiculous argument this morning about the physics of an accelator and ability for a dead body to press on it. If you're going to troll though, try to at least avoid such poor logic next time.
Posted by Bushmaster
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:42 pm to
God forbid a black man answers a question about his drivers license. After 10 times of asking for it.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:04 am to
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Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:30 am to
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the guy is getting pulled over on the right side of the road, hence his steering wheel has been turned slightly to the right.


Disagree. Firstly, to presume to know the direction of front wheels is silly. Secondly, I'm skeptical you have ever driven/parked a car if you are really of this position. If you do indeed have a vehicle, experiment with parking next to a curb. If you turn your wheel to the right, without correcting - you're stopped at an angle, pointed (at the degree of your turn) toward the curb. A natural part of pulling over or parking is correcting your wheel direction, such that your vehicle ends parallel to the curb. With this correction, it is not unfeasible for your front wheels to arrive at a slightly left position. This doesn't take into account alignment, tire pressure, or the multitude of other possible variables making your message board physics flawed. But really, let me know how the parking experiment pans out.

Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:33 am to
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Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:37 am to
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The video shows the tires facing straight.



So you can say, with conviction, that the front wheels had no degree of turn, whatsoever? From the video? Lol.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:43 am to
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Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:45 am to
I can't even act mad; your ability is downright impressive.

Eta: Go take a look at the first picture in the OP and tell me his steering wheel isn't turned. Roasted.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:48 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35250 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:55 am to
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I guess a dead guy can steer too. He sure as shite missed that silver car parked in front of him.
Because wheels can't be turned? Interestingly that turn took him directly into the big curb where the car got stuck.

I will give you credit though. You're persistent, whether you're trolling or just stuck in honest absurdity.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 12:57 am
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:58 am to
I think it can be reasonably deduced that the officer pulled out his tactical knife and punctured both left tires while being dragged, before signing up for a credit card in driver's name.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35250 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:04 am to
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I think it can be reasonably deduced that the officer pulled out his tactical knife and punctured both left tires while being dragged, before signing up for a credit card in driver's name.
This is actually more logical than some of the other posts in this thread.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
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Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 5:32 am to
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In training, I've been timed at taking 1.3 seconds to draw and fire 2 rounds on target. Not hard.

So that would leave you 0.7 seconds to determine that you were in such fear for your life that you needed to kill someone. The vast majority of people that see this video are disgusted by it. It's safe to say that in his 0.7 seconds he made an awful decision, do you agree?
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
5139 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 8:22 am to
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Let the frick go of the car dumb arse!!!


It was a split second reaction by the officer to not let the violator go so grabs the vehicle. Your perception is biased. Why not say... quit pressing the accelerator and obey the officer.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7194 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 10:22 am to
If I'm the cop in that situation, the guy gets shot all the same. He continuously disobeyed the officer and then put the officer's life in danger. What if he had rolled him up under the car and killed him? I say frick that.

Plain and simple, this indictment is about keeping the black community in Cincinnati from rioting. It had nothing at all to do with upholding the law. So now we have a police officer with his life ruined for some thug with 60+ arrests.
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