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re: Beginners Guide to Climbing Everest (The Mountain)

Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:28 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:28 am to
Mr Baker is probably a better peak to learn snow and ice than Rainier
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 11:29 am
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:29 am to
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Mr Baker is probably a better peak to learn snow and ice than Rainier


As far as general climbing though?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:32 am to
Yes. You get everything you get at Rainier at a more reasonable altitude. You can spend more time on technique and less an marking something off your list.

Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:35 am to
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and based on some of the suggestions here I think I’m going to do a mountaineering course, possibly at Rainier.


You need to find a club FIRST.

I could drop 2 names but I know this is bullshite.

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want to see how I feel about climbing in general, and if it’s something I can reallly get into. I already know I like camping/hiking


Not even close to the same.

Most of y'all don't like the cold. Can you handle the cold?

Typical summits around here start at night and you get off the summit before the snow softens up.

Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:39 am to
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You need to find a club FIRST.


Most of y'all don't like the cold. Can you handle the cold?

Typical summits around here start at night and you get off the summit before the snow softens up.



I love cold weather or I wouldn't be considering climbing in the snow.

What do you mean club? Like RMI Expeditions?

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:42 am to
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I want to see how I feel about climbing in general, and if it’s something I can reallly get into. I 


It's one of those things you wont know about until you see it up close. A guy who was on a course with me froze up the first day and bailed. He had considered it a bucket list item and spent several months and several thousand dollars preparing. He saw what it really involved and said Nope. Reading and even watching videos won't prepare you.

If you have crags within driving distance, that should be your first step. Learn to get comfortable with heights and exposure. Even if your goal is alpine mountaineering and not rock climbing, it will still involve plenty of verticality, so get familiar with it. An indoor climbing gym is not the same as a real rock face.

Protip: the Appalachian Trail has some hairy sections too. If that's going to be problematic for you you need to know about it before you embark
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:44 am to
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I love cold weather or I wouldn't be considering climbing in the snow.



What's the coldest you've been for a prolonged time with extreme physical activity?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:45 am to
I'm a legit hiker. Or should I say, I was a legit hiker. I've done a bunch of 14ers even, and I'm still not a climber. I'm a hiker. Even when I rappelled or climbed I knew I was a hiker. Climbing is a different animal. It's not generally a wise pursuit for bad-arse-wannabe-flatlanders.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:51 am to
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What do you mean club? Like RMI Expeditions?


Local climbing groups. You can find them on social media.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:53 am to
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What's the coldest you've been for a prolonged time with extreme physical activity?



Probably hiking and camping in the snow in the Smoky Mtns. That was in high school though. I haven't done any real camping or hiking in a few years so that's why I'd like to get back into it, if only for a little while. I obviously haven't experienced anything as challenging as what climbing any of these mountains would entail, with regard to the cold or otherwise. That wasn't my point though. He suggested that most people in Louisiana/the south don't like cold weather. I told him that I do.
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:53 am to
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It's not generally a wise pursuit for bad-arse-wannabe-flatlanders.


Yep.

Cold weather climbs test everything you have. It's not a sport for people afraid of failure
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:54 am to
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What do you mean club? Like RMI Expeditions?


A mountaineering club holds classes to teach about mountaineering and rock climbing. These are taught by folks with a lot of experience.

My club does both in a weekend. Rock all day Saturday, snow all day Sunday. It's a basic course and not as much is taught versus another club whom does their class over a few weekends.

Guides at RMI, when you go on a climb, teach you some basics so you don't kill each other. Especially the guides.

To really learn you need a lot more than the basics and you need more than a day doing it.

After summiting with RMI you couldn't repeat the feat the following weekend SAFELY with the basics you were taught. The biggest obstacle is learning crevasse rescue and being good at it....or people die.

That's another class I took over a weekend. 2 days of nothing but learning glacier travel, z pulleys, anchors, and rescuing, and self rescue. Again, the other club does this over 3 weekends.

I've spent a lot of time with my partner practicing these things until it's burned in our brain.

To truly learn you need to spend some time out here. Or what most folks do, move here.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:57 am to
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Cold weather climbs test everything you have. It's not a sport for people afraid of failure


It's a serious mental game.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:58 am to
Which is what Rob Newsom did, who until Joby Ogwyn came along was the first and only Louisianian to summit Everest.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296277 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:58 am to
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Probably hiking and camping in the snow in the Smoky Mtns


You got a long way to go.

A winter climb of mt Foraker is probably the closest experience to the conditions you'll face on Everest.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:59 am to
Hey Roger-I'm doing the Shikoku Henro sometime in the next decade, provided I live that long. I have a physician (key) buddy that is going with me and our deadline is 8 years from now-in other words if it's not done by then, we do it then. I'd go now but my business would suffer and I have college tuition etc to pay. I only walk/hike 1500-2000 miles a year now-and this is 750 miles in like 6 weeks. So I have my work cut out for me. Ain't getting younger.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
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You got a long way to go.


A guy died on Hood a few weeks ago. He couldn't arrest himself and slid 600 feet into crater rock.

You ready Pecker?
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
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something that could potentially kill me.

The OT would start a gofundme for this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296277 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:03 pm to
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and this is 750 miles in like 6 weeks. So I have my work cut out for me. Ain't getting younger.


Damn, that's a hell of a target.

I'm a hiker but I'm not sure I've got the patience to do that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296277 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:04 pm to
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You ready Pecker?


I hope he takes a GoPro and records his first effort
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