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re: BBC article... Can oysters save Louisiana’s wetlands?

Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by Nelson Biederman IV
New York, NY
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:41 pm to
You’re all wrong. Every single pacific species is better than any Atlantic species. Delta oysters are my favorite of the latter, but that’s only due to nostalgia.
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 9:41 pm to
When I was in LSU AgBusiness undergrad, there was a beginning push to put freshwater oysters in every public LA waterway to clean up the muddy waters to open up more opportunities for outdoor recreation.
I only paid attention during the class lesson about it & forgot about it until seeing this thread. I wonder if that ever got going...? (Too distracted rn to Google it)
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:04 pm to
You need to calm down right now.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:10 pm to
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How much time and money is spent gathering up all those shells and putting them out? Probably much more than the cost to install rocks...


This article seems like it's probably a little one sided, but they seem to say you're wrong, at least when you consider the other benefits that oysters provide.

quote:

Against this backdrop, building oyster reefs to buffer Louisiana’s wetlands, instead of laying seawalls made of concrete or granite or (more likely still) of doing nothing, no longer seems like an unwieldy undertaking. Instead, as a solution, it seems elegant. Nature usually is.

The data has borne this out. One study determined that a hectare of oyster reef was worth up to $99,000 (£77,000) per year in terms of benefits like the habitat it provided for other fish and its effect on water quality – not including the value of those oysters being harvested. In terms of flood and storm protection alone, an oyster reef provides more value for money than even levees or dykes. In April 2018, a team of scientists published a cost-benefit analysis of projects being done across the Gulf, from building dykes to restoring barrier islands. Costs of construction and maintenance were weighed against the effectiveness of flood and storm protection – calculated using economic models developed by reinsurance company Swiss Re with its partners. (Read more about how the financial industry is developing tools to calculate the risk of climate change and what that could mean for climate resilience projects).

The findings were stark. Anything with a benefit-to-cost ratio above one is, of course, seen as cost-effective. In terms of reducing risk alone, dykes and levees had a benefit-to-cost ratio of 0.26; beach replenishment in the western Gulf, 0.28. Restoring oyster reefs (7.34) was calculated to be 28 times more beneficial. And restoring wetlands? Thirty-three times more (8.72). The only project with a higher benefit-to-cost ratio was sandbags – but only because of how cheap they were. In terms of overall risk reduction, the benefit was low.

As Abibou puts it: “We can’t just build levees and hide behind them. We need to have a healthy marsh and healthy wetlands to provide us with adequate risk reduction.”

Then there is the value of the fishing industry in general.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71182 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:20 pm to
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Chesapeake Bay are better and Im sure others are better.


I've had Chesapeake oysters, Puget Sound Oysters, and Gulf Oysters and the gulf ones are clearly the biggest and most flavorful. I will say, however, that I actually did like the Puget Sound ones as well as they have a unique earthy taste not found in the gulf ones. The Chesapeake ones were too bland and small.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:23 pm to
johns river are also better than the ones here
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:24 pm to
Please join us in Kennebunkport this fall.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:29 pm to
should i leave LL at home?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173704 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:31 pm to
No she’s one of my best friends plus Mrs. Allen and Cosmo’s ol’ lady (or sidechick) will be there.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:33 pm to
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Chesapeake Bay are better and Im sure others are better.



This

Even Mobile Bay Oysters are better.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83165 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:33 pm to
I don’t think I’ve ever met an oyster I don’t like.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:34 pm to
The oyster puffs Mrs. tgrbaitn08 made for the derby were out of this world!
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:35 pm to
Erosion is constant, it always has been. At some point, everything currently on the surface of the will be gone below it, and eventually, everything below the surface will be recycled and morphed into some other concoction. Yes, there are things we can do to slow that process and slow the demise of ecosystems, I just think some people forget everything on Earth is temporary in its current form.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 10:36 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:37 pm to
Those weren’t oysters my friend.

I hope you are well
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:38 pm to


Dare i ask the ingredient? Salmon?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38567 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Louisiana oysters are the best in the world.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38567 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:45 pm to
quote:


I've had Chesapeake oysters, Puget Sound Oysters, and Gulf Oysters and the gulf ones are clearly the biggest and most flavorful. I will say, however, that I actually did like the Puget Sound ones as well as they have a unique earthy taste not found in the gulf ones. The Chesapeake ones were too bland and small.

I don't find gulf oysters more flavorful than Puget Sound oysters or Pacific oysters in general but they are definitely bigger and still pretty damned good.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 10:46 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71182 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:50 pm to
I'm not certain they're "more" flavorful, I should have just said I preferred their flavor. The Pacific oysters definitely have a different flavor profile which I like too as a change of pace.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30030 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:53 pm to
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Blue Points >>> LA oysters




I've had both back to back. And I've served blue points to a Louisiana oysterman.

He was interested in the novelty, and disappointed in their flavor
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38567 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

I'm not certain they're "more" flavorful, I should have just said I preferred their flavor. The Pacific oysters definitely have a different flavor profile which I like too as a change of pace.

That's fair. I prefer the Pacific flavors but it's all just opinion. And don't get me wrong, when I'm in the gulf I'll tear up some gulf oysters.
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