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re: Baws, as of 1/1/25 your Netflix subscription will be subject to sales tax
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
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How? Growing my own crops? Sewing my own clothes? It’s nonsense that people convince themselves is somehow better because it’s not on muh income even though you’ll very likely pay more.
It's not nonsense, and people have done it. Just because you don't want to do it doesn't mean it isn't possible. I get it though. I also don't want to do it.
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I’ve never understood the hate against income as the metric for taxation. Literally no one in the history of ever has said I only get to keep 70 cents or whatever it would be of every dollar I make so fvck I don’t want that 70 cents.
Of course they haven't. They've said "I want the other 30 cents too."
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Or convince themselves they’re better off paying 35 cents because “they got to choose to do so”.
100 times better than the first scenario.
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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If they did this there’d hardly be any Louisianans
So it'd be a win/win?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:01 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:it’s my belief that Mingo’s use of the term Baw was to refer to the average Louisiana citizen, but I could be wrong. I’m not Mingo. But my argument has been on behalf of the average Louisiana resident.
So when someone makes a blanket statement that most on this board will pay more (or me personally, in this case), I think that poster is incorrect.
As for you personally, if he made that statement (I didn’t see where he made it personal to you), there is no way to tell without knowing your household income and yearly expenditures. But making some assumptions this could work out in your favor. But at the end of the day if you took a random sample of residents this change is more harmful than it is helpful.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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But if you moved to lousiana, would you dutifully pay the extra 15+% on every purchase you made or would you be sure to make as many of your larger purchases as possible in MS or TX where the same items are significantly cheaper?
Guess it depends on where I am at the time.
I'm of the view that more industry would move to Louisiana for the lower taxes, incomes would rise as a result, and those other states would soon follow suit.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You can change your billing address to Oregon or some other state with no sales tax (hypothetically of course)
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:04 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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As for you personally, if he made that statement (I didn’t see where he made it personal to you)
You quoted his comment:
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If you buy the same exact goods next year as you bought this year, you will, in fact, pay more.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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But if you moved to lousiana, would you dutifully pay the extra 15+% on every purchase you made or would you be sure to make as many of your larger purchases as possible in MS or TX where the same items are significantly cheaper?
Let’s say this happened, which it never will.
1. The state would start taxing EVERYTHING at 25%. It would be a nightmare of small business, especially with Louisiana being a home rule state
2. The government would start auditing private citizens for use tax compliance. They’d have revenue agents walking through your house asking where your refrigerator came from. People would be screaming about the government intrusion
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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100 times better than the first scenario.
Paying more because you got to choose is better 0 times out of 1,000,000 no matter how hard you try to spin it.
You may be dumber than the other guy
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:06 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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As for you personally, if he made that statement (I didn’t see where he made it personal to you), there is no way to tell without knowing your household income and yearly expenditures. But making some assumptions this could work out in your favor. But at the end of the day if you took a random sample of residents this change is more harmful than it is helpful.
The dude is like 23 and lives at home with his parents in like San Antonio or some shite
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:08 pm to imjustafatkid
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I'm of the view that more industry would move to Louisiana for the lower taxes, incomes would rise as a result, and those other states would soon follow suit.
A LOT of corporations don’t pay income taxes, they have huge NOL’s. They’d hate the increase in their operating costs and increase in what they have to collect from the customer. It would absolutely destroy commerce in the state
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:13 pm to imjustafatkid
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Guess it depends on where I am at the time.
And that’s where your scenario fails. You walked right into it.
Your entire argument is premised on being able to choose to forego consumption to avoid the taxes.
But you don’t actually want to forego consumption. You will consume the same, and instead of paying the high consumption tax you advocate for, you want to pay some other state’s much lower tax rate.
You want to live in a functional society with infrastructure, law enforcement, property rights, etc etc but you think everyone else should pay for it.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:13 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:there isn’t a single state that uses such tax system. In fact that’s a pretty extreme taxation system and there is a reason it isn’t used
If they were to eliminate property and income taxes completely, and run solely on consumption taxes, all Louisianans would end up better off over time.
I’m not trying to play the education card, but have you spent a lot of time studying US tax code or tax theory? Are you a CPA or work within the US tax code on a daily basis? You just seem very confident in your answers so I’m trying to understand why because the dots aren’t connecting
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:17 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:This told me everything I need to know. Respectfully, you’re way out of your league and have no clue what you’re talking about
I'm of the view that more industry would move to Louisiana for the lower taxes, incomes would rise as a result, and those other states would soon follow suit.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:21 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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This told me everything I need to know. Respectfully, you’re way out of your league and have no clue what you’re talking about
It’s insane. You won’t find a post of mine in a thread of a subject in which I have no clue about. But they’re all over this website with great vigor
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:all that needs adding to this is a good ole "bless your heart"
I’m not trying to play the education card, but have you spent a lot of time studying US tax code or tax theory? Are you a CPA or work within the US tax code on a daily basis? You just seem very confident in your answers so I’m trying to understand why because the dots aren’t connecting
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:26 pm to cgrand
quote:I really am trying to be polite
all that needs adding to this is a good ole "bless your heart"
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:30 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I really am trying to be polite
A bunch of dudes who have no clue screaming at people trying to help them not have to pay more taxes.
I wouldn’t tell an engineer how to build a bridge I had to drive across.
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