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Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to PatDyesPants
I'm a CCW permit holder here in Florida.
I avoid anywhere where I can't carry (unless armed security is provided). I make that decision based on the whole "Gun Free Zone" thing.
Like the guy below you said "Guns and Alcohol" don't mix. So I agree with that. That said, the provision in the law is completely stupid. Here's why:
I can't sit at the bar at Applebees and carry. But I can be in the restaurant with it and drink as much as I want sitting 10 feet away from those guys sitting in the "bar area"
If a business makes 50.1% of it's sales from alcohol, I cannot "legally" carry in that business.
Very weird provision of the law.
I avoid anywhere where I can't carry (unless armed security is provided). I make that decision based on the whole "Gun Free Zone" thing.
Like the guy below you said "Guns and Alcohol" don't mix. So I agree with that. That said, the provision in the law is completely stupid. Here's why:
I can't sit at the bar at Applebees and carry. But I can be in the restaurant with it and drink as much as I want sitting 10 feet away from those guys sitting in the "bar area"
If a business makes 50.1% of it's sales from alcohol, I cannot "legally" carry in that business.
Very weird provision of the law.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to PatDyesPants
quote:
Since we are going down that rabbit hole, that activity is legal in other states without noticeable problems.
But we are talking about Florida
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:53 am to PatDyesPants
frick why didnt somebody tell the shooter that? This whole thing could have been averted.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:58 am to PatDyesPants
quote:
Since we are going down that rabbit hole, that activity is legal in other states without noticeable problems.
In AZ you can bring a gun into a bar....
ONLY if the bar doesn't have a sign prohibiting guns(and most do)
AND...you are not allowed to drink ANY alcohol if you are carrying
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:01 pm to PatDyesPants
I don't think religious radicals follow the signs or the laws. Just saying.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:02 pm to PatDyesPants
Bartenders or security/bouncers that are trained on scenarios like this would be the only way that it could have helped. You don't want a bunch of drunks pulling out guns in a dark nightclub just firing.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:05 pm to PatDyesPants
quote:
Did I even advocate that in the OP?
Some of you can't think past your own emotionally charged nose.
Then what point are you making? You started a thread just to state a fact?
Here's one: The bars in Florida have alcohol. Just saying...
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:07 pm to notiger1997
Anerica needs to be a gun free zone.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:07 pm to Croacka
Property owners have the right to prohibit firearms on their property.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:08 pm to Croacka
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I think the op was just pointing out at how gun free zones have frequently been the targets of these mass shootings
I doubt the shooter targetted the bar because it was gun free.
I think it had more to do with it being filled with gay people.
packed bar (300 people were at the club) are one of the worst places for a shooting to happen. Close your eyes and pull the trigger and you are likely to hit someone
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:11 pm to Croacka
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I think the op was just pointing out at how gun free zones have frequently been the targets of these mass shootings
I think you are giving the OP too much credit and read into his post.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:13 pm to lsunurse
quote:
In AZ you can bring a gun into a bar....
ONLY if the bar doesn't have a sign prohibiting guns(and most do)
AND...you are not allowed to drink ANY alcohol if you are carrying
But you also have to have a CCW permit to do so.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:15 pm to gatorrocks
quote:
can't sit at the bar at Applebees and carry. But I can be in the restaurant with it and drink as much as I want sitting 10 feet away from those guys sitting in the "bar area"
You can carry while drunk in FL?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:18 pm to upgrayedd
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But you also have to have a CCW permit to do so.
Not that hard to get in AZ
Requirements:
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General Eligibility
Applicants must:
•be a resident of this state or a United States citizen;
•Is twenty-one years of age or older or is at least nineteen years of age and provides evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States Armed Forces, United States Armed Forces Reserve or a State National Guard.
•not be under indictment for a felony offense;
•not be convicted of a felony offense, unless the conviction has been expunged, set aside, vacated or pardoned, or the individuals right to possess firearms has be restored AND the individual must not be a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.
•not suffer from mental illness and been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution;
•not be unlawfully present in the United States;
•complete a firearms safety training program pursuant to ARS §13-3112.N.
LINK
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:18 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Anerica needs to be a gun free zone.
Like Paris, right?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:19 pm to dbeck
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Property owners have the right to prohibit firearms on their property.
And criminals ignore those requests.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:19 pm to lsunurse
Not that hard to get one in many states, but AZ doesn't require one so many people don't have it.
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:46 pm to upgrayedd
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You can carry while drunk in FL?
No. lol. I was pointing out the weird nature of the law that states I can be somewhere alcohol is as long as it's not the "bar area".
I like my license so I don't drink and carry.
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