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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:45 pm
Tldr: contractor did the job, asking for more money afterwards. Is this dude just taking me for a ride? What should I do? Should I nut up, and tell him it's his mistake, he needs to eat it , or split the difference of $800 ($400)to get him out my hair?

So I'm getting my drywall done after the flood. I contacted a Sheetrock contractor with many crews, off of a referral. He said he could get on it as soon as I got my sheet rock, so that was a huge incentive to me as I've had multiple people come out and not come back even after giving me a bid.

On our first conversation he said he would do 50 sheets for $2200. I said "OK sounds good, do you want to do a contract, or come out to look at the job?" He said "no he's been doing is 10 years, and in the last two months he hasn't done any contracts". I expressed my concern about him after the job being finished asking for money, and he said "no, that won't be a problem."

He sends the crew out to hang, and they can't speak a lick of English. But they were very upset once they got there because it was more work than they had been told, Because the owner had not been out there to see for himself.

So I talk to him again, and he said that it's now going to be $3900, and $2200 must've been a mistake, He had no idea where the number came from and this crew wants $1700 to finish the demo and hang the rock which ended up being about 35 sheets
That's still not a bad deal, and they were there, so I said all right let's do it. He ended up coming out to give me a better estimate on the finishing part, bid was $1900.

The finishers comes out, and I show them around the house, and the things that I was looking for. Two hours later he leaves, and the next morning a different crew shows up for reasons unknown and I explain the same things to them.

I go out of town, but still am available if needed. The owner calls me when the job is done, and tells me they did a lot more work than expected, and that I wanted the job done like a custom home, and that I asked them to do work that him and I didn't talk about.

He then suggested that I pay him 800 more dollars!

I told him that's not how it works, and that I barely spoke to the crew when they came out. He said look, you can either give me the extra money or not, it's up to you it's your conscience.

Is this dude just taking me for a ride? What should I do? Should I nut up, and tell him to F off, or split the difference for $400 to get him out my hair?

It seems as if he's a crappy contractor with horrible business practices. It's his mistake for not communicating with the crews, and making sure that we're all on the same page.
I wonder if he does this often, and passes his mistakes on to his customers. I also feel partly to blame because I did not get things written in contract, but I'm pretty sure even if I did he would still ask for more money.



Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33863 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:49 pm to
Nope, I wouldn't pay him anymore.

He should have looked at the job or signed a contract.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10149 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:58 pm to
Lol, screw him
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184471 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

The owner calls me when the job is done, and tells me they did a lot more work than expected, and that I wanted the job done like a custom home, and that I asked them to do work that him and I didn't talk about.




Well, did you?

Everyone here will be against the contractor, but as a contractor, I will tell you that a lot of customers do this. They think that when the workers or sub crew show up they can just have the crew throw things in. The proper way to do it is a change order that you both agree on prior but that goes back to you should have had a contract from the beginning that outlined expectations and price.

You are both at fault. Him for not wanting to do a contract and you for not running him off when he didn't want to do one.

Might be an expensive lesson for both of yall but unfortunately for you, he can lien your house.
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:09 pm to
Tell him you want 1000 in liquidated damages.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:45 pm to
No I didn't ask them to do anything that I didn't speak to the owner about. They did some extra work on their own accord. I barely spoke 10 words to them. He told me I only needed to cover the floor, that's what I did. They were complaining that they had to mask a lot of stuff. They also spent a lot of time in pulling down some wallpaper backing in a 100sqft room, that I did not ask them to do. I spoke to the owner about not wearing about the wallpaper, but just floating the joints. When I spoke to the crew, I told them I'm not sure what I'm gonna have to do in this room to get it right. Then they said "we will make it look good". The impression I got was it won't take much work to get it right. It's a tiny room with One wall of cabinets. Either way they should've said from the beginning this is a lot more work than I expected.

How can he lien my house? Can any contractor put a lien on a house for any amount of money. It's all he said she said.
Posted by TakeAGander
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
584 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:53 pm to
That's why I put everything in writing, and have the homeowner sign to what we agree upon. In addition, I write in potential extra cost that the homeowner may be responsible for if we come across various issues. As far as I am concerned, if you have nothing in writing you are fine. He is not going to put a lien on your house with absolutely nothing in writing to stand on.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19317 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:00 pm to
I don't know how liens work in LA but many states a contractor can lien your house in no time, that does not mean your house gets sold & he gets paid but will you spend 800 bucks to get rid of the guy?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47429 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:10 pm to
My recommendation would be to listen to stout in this thread.

/Meauxjeaux
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