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re: ATTN OT Divorce Lawyers: Ashley Madison Info Dump Has Happened

Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Negative. The release contains verified/not verified data based on a Boolean integer.


What does verified/unverified mean? Is that where they send a link to your email and you click it to confirm it's really you?

(I've never participated on a dating site so it's all Greek to me.)
Posted by CMTiger101
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:13 pm to
The data contains all of the usernames for the entire site since 2008. It also contains the corresponding credit card payments for members who paid for the service. It's like any other dating service, signing up is free, but to do anything you have to pay.

The username/membership information is for anyone who signed up and may (but likely doesn't) contain any information that can be traced back to you. However, credit card authorizations generally require that you enter the name on the card and the billing address of the card. So people who paid for the service are at much greater risk of exposure.

I've looked through the actual data. It's organized like you'd expect database dumps to be organized. There are multiple tables with varying pieces of information. You can't just "look up" someone without matching up the member number from table to table.

If someone used a their legitimate (commonly known) email address, then you could search that table to get their member number. Then from there, you could cobble together their "preferences".

Searching by name is trickier. The "name" data only appears with the payment data, and there are different files for each day (literally) since 2008. However, someone who's reasonably intelligent could append all of the payment tables together so they could search by name across all of the data at once. Again, you could back into other information once you knew the member number.

My guess is that AM will push takedown notices to websites who allow searching by first/last name. Searching by email isn't too helpful because I'd guess most people used a real (but not publicly known) email address.

By email "not being verified", they mean that you didn't have to click a link that was sent to you in order to continue using the site. For instance, this forum requires that you verify your account before you can post. That means there's a ton of "fake" information in the system. These likely won't have credit card info (and real names) attached though.



Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:29 pm to
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Just so yall know, I've banged everyone's wife on Ashley Madison.


Primarily because there were only two women registered on the site.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:53 pm to
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CMTiger101


Thanks. That makes sense.

A smart person would probably do all fake information. You can buy disposable credit cards and use a PO Box and burn phone. That way it wouldn't be tied to your real name. That would especially be the case for a site like this. A single person wouldn't care if someone knew they were on Zoosk (although you still wouldn't want your credit card data breached.)

How much liability does Ashley Madison have here? I can see them being targeted by a public figure whose name was falsely used to create an account (negligence), or by people whose credit cards were stolen and who are now in the data dump.

Actual users might have a case too but it would be weaker because hacking is a well established risk on all sites and any problems they suffer are a result of things they shouldn't have done in the first place.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32894 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:02 pm to
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What does verified/unverified mean? Is that where they send a link to your email and you click it to confirm it's really you?

(I've never participated on a dating site so it's all Greek to me.)


Sorry, my wording. Appears the account is "verified" once payment is received and was indicated by 1 in the dump file I went thru. The other listed accounts had a 0. The file didn't list names, just email addresses.
Posted by WAY2GOLSU
Stick Red
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:04 pm to
The thing to remember is the br list is only the top spenders. The site is free for women ... once all of it is up for viewing.... the women will have to start spewing the excuses.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32894 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:11 pm to
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So, are you saying they cant distinguish between the verified/unverified data based on the format of the data they were able to acquire? How do they know that this Josh Duggar character made purchases?


I only saw gov, mil and edu data. Also wasnt a complete view since I didnt see names listed. But you could clearly tell which accounts had made a purchase (indicated by 1) vs those that had only signed up to the site (indicated by 0). I suppose a purchased account could still be created thru fraudulent means but i'd guess the vast majority of those have correct personal data that was verified for online payment processing.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:22 pm to
Can you tell anything by the amount of the purchase? Like basic vs more stuff?
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:29 pm to
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The thing to remember is the br list is only the top spenders. The site is free for women ... once all of it is up for viewing.... the women will have to start spewing the excuses.

So I saw a women I know on the top spender list. So what packages was she exactly buying?

***especially since the site is free to females.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
Baton Roudjhe
Member since Apr 2011
448 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:33 pm to
Have ya'll seen the Baton Rouge list yet? I know 5 people on there.
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:35 pm to
Where did you find the list?
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
Baton Roudjhe
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448 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:37 pm to
should I start a new thread?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:39 pm to
The Baton Rouge list is really impressive. Some pretty eye popping names on it.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:41 pm to
Where can the list be found? I wonder if other cities are forming their own lists.
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
Baton Roudjhe
Member since Apr 2011
448 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:42 pm to
I went ahead and started a new thread since it'll be buried in this one
Posted by Big Worm
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
578 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:42 pm to
How can you see the Baton Rouge list?
Posted by SirPsychoSexy
Baton Roudjhe
Member since Apr 2011
448 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:45 pm to
well you could've seen it until my thread got yanked. That's weird. Why was it yanked?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61336 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:45 pm to
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went ahead and started a new thread since it'll be buried in this one


It got whacked. I was able to click fast enough.
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:45 pm to
Deleted already

LOL
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28267 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 5:45 pm to
Saw a TD username @Gmail.com
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