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re: Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists

Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:38 pm to
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you better thank me for bumping your thread bucko

Posted by ScootOver
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:38 pm to
Thats very Christian of you.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:40 pm to
He heard that in Sunday school.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:42 pm to
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The light of God is in us all, and it is our selfish desires that cause the projection you speak about, and traps us within the limitations we attribute to the body. That's 'sin', and we all have it. The darkness anyone projects into the world is a product of their own making.


Speak for yourself. That's some scary shite there. You teach that to children?

Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:42 pm to
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Imagine it like people with kids talking about their kids and how people without kids don't give a damn about their kids. It pretty much works the same from Christians regarding atheists and vice versa.

You obviously cared enough about that guys Facebook post to use it as an example and coming complain about it on here


There are Christians that can be annoying about it also, especially the older folks. As far as me caring, not really, I added to a thread, not like I started one. I haven't even mentioned it to anybody until my last post. Just giving my observations about my point, don't care as much as you may think.

My whole point is, athiest tend to wanna speak to Christians to prove their point, whereas, I think most Christians, especially one's under say 50, don't really care about an athiests point of view, just like we know athiest shouldn't care about our point of view. Nobody changes anyone's opinion so why does it matter? Not necessarily this thread, but many other's are pages and pages of athiest arguing with a Christian who made a single post like "I believe in God" and that poster doesn't even post another reply. Its like ya'll are arguing with nobody. It doesn't bother me at all, I get a kick out of it. Again, I have no problem with athiesm, none at all, I just think its funny how athiest are so gun-ho about the subject. Again, Christians can be just as bad, I get a kick out of both sides. I'm not arguing, just stating an observation, doesn't matter either way.


Eta: As far as the post about kids, I agree. I don't bring up my kids unless someone ask about them.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Loveland Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:43 pm to
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athiest tend to wanna speak to Christians to prove their point,


Wrong, so wrong. Atheists want to speak of evidence. Period.
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Wrong, so wrong. Atheists want to speak of evidence. Period


And that's fine, but what if we don't care about evidence? Why not just drop the subject and call us retarded? I don't mean actually argue and say we are retarded, I mean like if someone thinks the sky is purple, I'm just gonna walk off, why argue? Why don't ya'll go that route?
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted by ScootOver
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:50 pm to
It's becoming more and more obvious to them that this universe is a created thing, with an intelligence behind it. They are careful to posit that intelligence as 'alien' or 'higher' or even human beings of the future instead of using the word that most theists would use-God.


How's Tom Cruise been bro. O, and Travolta
Posted by Loveland Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:51 pm to
We don't think you are retarded. Just wrong. It's understandable, we get brainwashed as kids. Eventually, many of us escape the pull.

That's the problem, religion makes good people do dumb things.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:07 pm to
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but what if we don't care about evidence?


Hahahahaha
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists
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but what if we don't care about evidence?


Hahahahaha


That didn't come out how I meant. I'm not debating anyone on evidence or faith in this thread.

Eta: Frick my phone, didn't copy and paste everything I meant for it to.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted by BGSB
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:38 pm to
We are really something, so much interest in what does not matter, and so little in what does, Lol
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Atheists want to speak of evidence.


Jesus walked this Earth during recorded history. Do you also not believe in the Roman wars of that time period?
Posted by tobythetiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:26 pm to
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Speak for yourself. That's some scary shite there. You teach that to children?


Yes, I teach it to mine-what is so scary for you in that?
Posted by tobythetiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:41 pm to
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For this universe to be so finely tuned for sentient life pretty much requires an infinite number of universes for that fine tuning to appear.


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Well this isn't true on almost any level so....


Yeah, it's true throughout all levels. Even the mainstream of science recognizes this. If any one of an innumerable range of things like gravity, the strong force, the weak force, etc. were different life as we know it could not exists, because there'd be no planets, stars, galaxies, or even matter. It's why the mainstream embraces the multiverse model, because otherwise statistically it's impossible for everything to be arranged so perfectly for life without an outside creator.
Posted by tobythetiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:43 pm to
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The entire post is bullshite, this is just the cherry on top


Naw. The BS is calling something BS when you're ignorant of what's going on in science.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted by tobythetiger
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Please show me where mainstream science is saying this. Thanks in advance.


Never said that the mainstream, with it's anti-god political agenda, says this. But there are those who are coming to see this (NOT creation scientists) who believe the evidence points to this universe being some sort of projection or simulation. Like I said, these scientists are careful to avoid the 'g' word, because their work would be rejected out of hand by the mainstream and it's political agenda.
This post was edited on 12/25/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Yeah, it's true throughout all levels. Even the mainstream of science recognizes this. If any one of an innumerable range of things like gravity, the strong force, the weak force, etc. were different life as we know it could not exists, because there'd be no planets, stars, galaxies, or even matter. It's why the mainstream embraces the multiverse model, because otherwise statistically it's impossible for everything to be arranged so perfectly for life without an outside creator.


You just horribly misunderstand the existence of life. The universe didn't have to be a certain way for life to exist. The life that exists is a certain way because of the universe it is in. What you are saying would be akin to coming upon a frozen pail of water and think that the bucket and tempature were finely tuned in order to fit the frozen water and maintain its icy state. No, the water froze in that shape because of the buckets shape and tempature. Same with life.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:30 pm to
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That's you using the free will that a benevolent creator gave you, but will send you to hell to burn for all eternity because you used it.


Who told you that?
Anyway, life wouldn't be life without free will.
Love of God would be worthless without choice.
I don't know what happens to people who knowingly reject God, but whatever happens, it is their own choosing.
And again, choice is a good thing. It can't be a bad thing that you are given a choice. It's only bad when you have to choose with incomplete information, but I don't believe that a loving God would damn someone for ignorance.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:54 pm to
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Jesus walked this Earth during recorded history. Do you also not believe in the Roman wars of that time period?

Huh
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