re: At what point do we (myself included) say enough of this and get the hell out this state?

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I just don't think my quality of life would improve that much

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More money, less taxes, better school and roads mean nothing to you? Yes, there probably wouldn't really be "more to do" there's just way less cons.

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the only place that kinda checks all of our boxes would be NW Arkansas

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That would be way better too, but it's further away.

Anywhere is going to be better than Shreveport though. Place is awful

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Most people in the Southeast don't want to live near a bunch of other people. Personally, I like to walk outside and take a piss in my backyard, play loud music in my garage, and generally not worry about neighbors because they're so far away.

It is so much more peaceful than urban living.


Dude I advocate banning single family zoning in urban settings and using mixed used planning concepts to make suburbs and smaller cities better.

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I do not see how that would solve anything.

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The OT loves to shite on fat people but all our cities are constructed to where you cannot walk or bike anywhere.

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That is true. Unfortunately the cities, large and small expanded during a time when a white picket fence and at least two cars in every garage was expected. The leaders and designers of those expansion projects were too narrow minded to realize that times change and there might come a time where people might need or want other transportation options. Unfortunately, it's expensive and hard AF to modify most cities in the USA to allow for multiple methods of transportation. It is also unfortunate that cities keep electing the same kind of narrow minded people to leadership positions. Except now instead of car only they are bike only, bus only, or rail only and too incompetent to run a mass transit system efficiently enough to make someone want to leave his or her car and use another transportation option. You can advocate all you want, but until cities stop electing incompetent leaders nothing will change one way or another.

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An issue Louisiana is facing outside the shite weather is the lack of white collar jobs or room for growth.

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The lack of white collar jobs has less to due with the room for growth as the fact that is a shortage of educated workforce. The public education system sucks arse and there is nothing to keep college graduates in the state after graduation. It is hard AF to increase the educated workforce in the state when a large percentage of the state's college graduates ((many of whom received free tuition at public universities in the state) can take a white collar job in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Orlando, etc and earn a higher salary and pay less taxes than they would for the same white collar job in Shreveport, BR, or NOLA. That leaves the state footing the bill for those college graduates education and does nothing to increase the white collar workforce in the state which would make the state more attractive to companies that employ white collar workers.

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The state is dying a slow death. Get out if you can.

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But do not come to West Virginia.

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Yes -- yards are cringe and inefficient.

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Yards are cringe?

Now I've heard it all.

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frick having to take care of some giant piece of green grass.

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Most of the time it's pretty pleasant, really. Something to take pride in.

Plus it sure is nice to let my kid play in the backyard without worry.

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Not sure about less taxes.

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In almost all cases, I am.

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Have you checked out East TN?

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We have.

But like you said, it's a haul.

One of our main criteria is being within a days drive from our parents.

The main limitation for us moving is simply the fact that I'm in a bit of a niche job market. I'm unfortunately too connected to O&G.

Which is why, if we were ever to move, Dallas or Houston would likely be the most realistic scenario, unfortunately.

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Each of these states have weather issues of there own.....

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As said a few times in this thread, weather is just the cherry on top of this shite sunday. Imagine a beach house. It has the worst weather and people even pay to elevate them. Louisiana is not a beach.

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The main limitation for us moving is simply the fact that I'm in a bit of a niche job market. I'm unfortunately too connected to O&G.

Which is why, if we were ever to move, Dallas or Houston would likely be the most realistic scenario, unfortunately

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I would think a place like Tyler would be good as well if you wanted to stay in a smaller city.

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If you moved to east Texas real estate should be somewhat comparable so you'd get a 5% raise just by avoiding income tax

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I haven't done the comparison of property tax vs income tax, so I really can't argue here, but I assume property tax would drop that %

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It's demographics are pretty bad

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as a city? sure

in my area? demographics are probably similar to everyone else that posts here

I wouldn't be opposed to moving somewhere like Tyler (I'd prefer that over Dallas), but it would have to be the right opportunity and that opportunity just hasn't presented itself yet

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i hope making jokes at someone else’s loss makes you feel big and tough. it’s a god damn shame. be sure to make jokes when i bury my mom too.

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I’m sorry you’re going through this but I thought it’d bring some levity to a drastic situation. A lot of us are dealing with the same stress.

If anybody else had that avatar, I’d have made the same meme.

I don’t understand what you’re talking about your parents for.