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re: Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:28 am to CAD703X
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:28 am to CAD703X
There is currently no "magic password".
The only way to do what the FBI wants is to build a version of iOS that has such a password. Then install that iOS on the terrorists phone.
Once that version of iOS is out there Apple has legitimate concerns who would use it and how it would be used in the future.
I agree with Apple. By building that version of iOS and handing it over to the FBI you would be circumventing the privacy of the system for all users.
The only way to do what the FBI wants is to build a version of iOS that has such a password. Then install that iOS on the terrorists phone.
Once that version of iOS is out there Apple has legitimate concerns who would use it and how it would be used in the future.
I agree with Apple. By building that version of iOS and handing it over to the FBI you would be circumventing the privacy of the system for all users.
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:29 am to BottomlandBrew
quote:I understand the concern, interesting discussion really.
In this case, but not in future cases.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:30 am to AndyCBR
Well said sir
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:30 am to AndyCBR
quote:"Ok, here's a way to hack into any and all iPhones. Promise me you won't use it for any non-terrorism cases."
By building that version of iOS and handing it over to the FBI you would be circumventing the privacy of the system for all users.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:32 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Also, once it's their, hackers will be able to exploit it. No question.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:33 am to CAD703X
Your headline is misleading. The article does not say Apple has a password to turn over.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:40 am to foshizzle
quote:
Your headline is misleading. The article does not say Apple has a password to turn over.
Do what? They control the servers that store the passwords to iPhones online.
I'll help them out:
SELECT ios-password
FROM table iphone-metadata
WHERE ios-user = "a-hole-mass-murderer-sayed"
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:42 am to CAD703X
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:42 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Anyone who thinks for one second that the Feds would use this to attain info other than from this ONE case is just being paranoid.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:43 am to CAD703X
Ok even if that made sense, which it doesn't, the phone would have to actively be connected to icloud, which it isn't.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:43 am to CAD703X
quote:Congrats. You now have an encrypted string.
SELECT ios-password
FROM table iphone-metadata
WHERE ios-user = "a-hole-mass-murderer-sayed"
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:44 am to MrSmith
changed SQL statement 
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:45 am to Covingtiger
quote:
Congrats. You now have an encrypted string.
Because Apple doesn't have access to the key generator they wrote?
Eta let me help you:
Copy a-hole-terrorist password string
Paste into encrypt/decrypt app
Hit 'decrypt'
Email password to FBI.gov
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:47 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:45 am to foshizzle
The title and entire OP is cherry picked. This is a much bigger issue than this one case. Not to mention, this phone is the terrorists work phone. He went to great lengths to destroy his personal phone and just left this one laying around. So it is highly likely there isn't shite on it. This is just the government using a high profile case that gets Americans behind it to get something they want done for thousands of other every day cases.
Hell, if you recall, the local DA was featured in a national article for this exact thing on a homicide in Gardere. Sad case about a lady getting killed. Do you want to give up your privacy over that case? Probably not but when they roll out the ISIS boogeyman everyone gets wound up. The implications are bigger than any one case.
Hell, if you recall, the local DA was featured in a national article for this exact thing on a homicide in Gardere. Sad case about a lady getting killed. Do you want to give up your privacy over that case? Probably not but when they roll out the ISIS boogeyman everyone gets wound up. The implications are bigger than any one case.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:46 am to CAD703X
quote:That's the whole point! They dont!
Because Apple doesn't have access to the key generator they wrote?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:47 am to CAD703X
quote:
Do what? They control the servers that store the passwords to iPhones online.
Your iPhones password is not stored online.
When connected to iCloud the OS has the ability to respond to a command via iCloud to brick and/or erase the phone. The phone stays locked.
Again, the FBI wants a custom build of iOS for their use.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:49 am to MrSmith
quote:so if Tim cook forgets his password on the iPad he's about to go on stage to present some apple engineer can't hook him up?
That's the whole point! They dont!
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am to AndyCBR
quote:que?
Your iPhones password is not stored online
So how do you login to icloud?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am to Dick Leverage
quote:You're naive. They would be able to break into any and all iPhones. You think they would never use it again?
Anyone who thinks for one second that the Feds would use this to attain info other than from this ONE case is just being paranoid.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Why are banks and isps required to turn over records but Apple isn't?
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