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re: Appeals Court: Confederate monuments in NOLA to be removed.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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They did what they had to do.
Agreed, and I'm fairly indifferent until people tell me I should hate them.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Those statues aren't dividing the USA.
Never said they were
You may has well have based on the following convo:
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Slap in the face of the unity of our nation. I take offense to that.
That's laughably irrational. And surprising since you usually aren't irrational.
Sorry I like my USA in one giant piece
Pretty rational.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:39 pm to junkfunky
That's why I'm always so careful to differentiate that it's the cause for which the confederacy fought that I take issue with being glorified. On the micro level, the reasons for which people fought/bled/died were far different (as is the case with most armed conflicts).
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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You may has well have based on the following convo:
Let me make this clear for you:
The cause for which those monuments stand is a slap in the face to the unity of our nation. That's not irrational--the confederacy existed as an attempt to end the country as it was constructed.
I never said the statues themselves are dividing the USA.
Don't "may as well have" me. I'm doing my damndest not to leave things I say up to ambiguity.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The cause for which those monuments stand is a slap in the face to the unity of our nation.
Why?
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That's not irrational--the confederacy existed as an attempt to end the country as it was constructed.
So they stand for the Confederacy? I was unaware the Confederacy was still a thing.
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I never said the statues themselves are dividing the USA.
You're saying it right now.
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Don't "may as well have" me. I'm do in my damn destination not to leave things I say up to ambiguity.
You're failing.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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And in the spirit of such, I think it would behoove us to be loathe to place the cause of the vanquished on a pedestal.
The statues were built on money donated from ordinary people. They were erected to memorialize all the soldiers who fought not only in the Army of Virginia, but in the CSA as a whole. Part of the reconstruction effort was to ease the tension between north and south and reconciliation between veterans and it fit in with that.
The CSA soldiers deserve just as much memorialization as those who fought and fell for the Union.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why?
Told you why.
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So they stand for the Confederacy?
They stand to honor those who fought for the Confederate cause.
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was unaware the Confederacy was still a thing.
Never said it was.
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You're saying it right now.
Incorrect.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
Are you all for taking down the Washington Monument as well?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:47 pm to rmnldr
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The CSA soldiers deserve just as much memorialization as those who fought and fell for the Union.
I disagree.
But, then again, this is the crux of our debate, now, isn't it?
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I disagree.
Wow.
That's low, Tbird.
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But, then again, this is the crux of our debate, now, isn't it?
Disrespecting warriors, no matter whom they fought for (as long as they didn't commit war crimes) is low.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Told you why.
Say it in a way I'll understand, because I don't agree with you.
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They stand to honor those who fought for the Confederate cause.
You could have said no much easier.
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Never said it was.
And yet it is somehow threatening the unity of present day America.
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Incorrect.
I disagree.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:52 pm to LNCHBOX
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Say it in a way I'll understand
I've put it in the plainest terms possible. Multiple times.
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because I don't agree with you.
That's your prerogative
I'm accustomed to folks disagreeing with me. quote:
You could have said no much easier.
It wasn't that difficult to grasp the first time I typed it, mijo.
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yet it is somehow threatening the unity of present day America.
Shitty attempt to re-frame what I said, but props for the attempt
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I disagree.
Then it would appear that we have reached an impasse
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:53 pm to GEAUXmedic
Some mad arse white people up in here!
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:03 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Are you all for taking down the Washington Monument as well?
The actual name "New Orleans" referencing Philippe II is racist, the St Louis Cathedral, the fleur de lis. The list goes on and on. We need to dismantle it all.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:06 pm to WaltTeevens
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Some mad arse white people up in here!
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:10 pm to Wimp Lo
all these street names need to come down as well
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I disagree
That's like spitting on drafted soldiers returning from Vietnam.
Exact same mentality.
Should I be shocked
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Well blacks that returned from WWII were actually spit on so...........
That's like spitting on drafted soldiers returning from Vietnam.
Exact same mentality.
Should I be shocked
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:18 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Well blacks that returned from WWII were actually spit on so...........
So you're ok with that? Did you think you're making a point there?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:18 pm to tgrbaitn08
I agree. We need to petition the Parish Government to allow a contest to rename these streets. Bye bye Bourbon and Royal.
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