re: Apparently all a girls needs to be a boy is wear boy clothes ( Elliot Page)

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NWarty

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let me tell you something right now.

If you went back to, say, 1998 or 2004 and said what you are saying now, you would have been laughed out of the room as an insane loon. by BOTH dems and repubs, libs and cons.

what does that tell you about your view on this issue? It's fricking insane. It's clown world.

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the problem is when trans activists seek to make it hate speech to call them wrong pronoun, or to destroy sports, or to push transgenderism on vulnerable young kids

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Bingo. No different than the old Moral Majority.

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the problem is when trans activists seek to make it hate speech to call them wrong pronoun, or to destroy sports, or to push transgenderism on vulnerable young kids

I have talked to MULTIPLE teachers (all democrats) who tell me they are concerned with the rise of transgenderism in middle and high school. these people are way too young to be engaging in this crap, and it more likely than not will frick them up.

most trans kids these days aren't actually suffering from gender dysorphia disorder, and are simply joining what they view as a "rebellious" group. But it is dangerous. suicide rates among trans are sky high/

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First off, I don’t disagree with you.

It’s why I find it dangerous that so many parents or kids just throw caution to the wind without seeking professional therapy. I’m my opinion, that’s absolutely crucial and necessary. My opinion sometimes is vehemently disagreed with by others within the LGBTQ community. There needs to be a lot of things addressed. I fully understand that. I also think that the strides and behind the scenes legwork done by folks in my community tends to get squashed when some loudmouth jackass, doesn’t paint us in a very good light.

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So, if I tell someone I identify as a different age than I truly am, you are obliged to accept that?

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I really couldn't care less how old you want to be.

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How about this: you have a right to believe you are a woman, and I have a right to believe you are not.

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Sounds fair. (For those joining late, I do not believe that I am a woman )

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most trans kids these days aren't actually suffering from gender dysorphia disorder, and are simply joining what they view as a "rebellious" group. But it is dangerous. suicide rates among trans are sky high/

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Correct. It’s not different than any set of teens every 10 or so years where they seek to defy the norm. Being trans is just the flavor of the month.

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How quaint.
Well if conservatives weren’t forced to have their taxes stolen to pay for gender reassignment surgeries, if we weren’t fired for making honest comments about transgenderism on social media, and if we weren’t told we have to go along with another persons psychosis, maybe we wouldn’t care as much.

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I get it but your entire premise is flawed.

You aren't being forced to pay for anything...first of all you are the only reason you have any federal tax burden....I never met a conservative yet who is not convinced that at least half of the people in the US live large and pay no federal taxes. Of course they are wrong but y'all all say its a bona-fide fact.

More importantly though, it ain't the IRS making you pay for such medical care...it is medical providers. They treat folks with no regard to the person's ability to pay because they'd be lambasted for doing otherwise by well meaning folks....but, given the basis of life and the lack of a free lunch, they gotta get paid somehow...and the ONLY source of revenue is paying customers.


As far as social media goes as an adult who is employed in an at will, right to work state you can be terminated for ANY reason...you ought to know this...and if you post something on social media that is controversial you may pay the cost. Again, you are responsible for this, not society...you could choose NOT to post...or, better yet, you could make life decisions which do not require that you compromise yourself in order to feed yourself...

And finally dealing with other people's psychosis. We bend over backward to comfort those suffering from mental illness in this country when that mental illness does not harm anyone other than the crazy motherfricker. We do this with folks who claim to believe in God...there is no greater mental illness than an adult claiming such bullshite....but, if it makes y'all feel good, and it doesn't cost much for the sane among us, where is the harm??? The same is true of all crazy motherfrickers....

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It never ceases to amaze the amount of angst conservatives have over other folks plumbing.....
Some of us care about morality, reason, and truth. These people are mentally ill or morally corrupted to the point of thinking that reason doesn't matter and truth is whatever they want it it to be. I reject that.

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Reject it all you want....and pick and choose the crazy shite you accept and the crazy shite you reject...no one gives a tinkers dam. But, do not force your world view onto others....because yours is as flawed as anyones. It works for you and thats great....but do not jump from it working for you to it would work for anyone if only they weren't crazy or somehow otherwise flawed...cause I have a news flash for you...we are all flawed. The need of the majority to dictate to the minority how they should lead their lives is what drives the minority to force the issue....if we just accepted the fact that folks are flawed, all folks, and as long as they ain't harming anyone who gives a frick??? I don't care who is fricking whom, as long as it is not a child and its consensual, and I do not care what kind of drawers a person likes....I also do not care that it comforts a lot of people to pretend to believe in God...as the common refrain goes, you do you....and I will do me...and as long as you aint trying to do me and I aint trying to do you we should be able to accept that we are different.

We see people doing shite all the time which seems silly to us....even downright disgusting....I think old boy with a brand new $70K 3/4 ton 4 wd squatted in the back with offset wheels is an idiot....but I know some folks prone to this and they aint bad people....just different. I know some gay folks...again, good people, just different than me....and thank goodness we ain't all the same.....

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and as long as they ain't harming anyone who gives a frick???

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Your side keeps making this argument, but people are being harmed. Let’s not pretend that the Trans police isn’t out there trying to inflict real personal harm to individuals and business that won’t fall in line with the current orthodoxy. We know for a fact that women’s sports has already been affected by trans athletes.

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Elliot Page

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Don’t know who you are, and don’t care that you like to put on boy’s clothes. Do what you want and leave me alone.

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Why the frick does this concern people like you so much?

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Because it’s insane. We don’t want to play along with your insanity.