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re: Apology for anti-vaccination posts I've made

Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:38 am to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:38 am to
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early to tell if vaccinations cause autism


Likely vitamin D and serotonin pathway

Clarifying : not related to vaccines

Likely related to distance from equator and more time spent indoor with rampant use of sunblock when outside (in the setting of a processed shitty diet for Americans and their kids....)

70 percent of the population is deficient. The percentage is likely higher if you calculate how many people have optimal vitamin D levels..

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Autism Spectrum Disorder [ASD], is a common neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired communication, repetitive behaviours and social impairment. For the last 35 years, a dramatically increased incidence has occurred, possibly reflecting increased surveillance, over-diagnosis, a true increase in incidence or some combination of these explanations. As of 2010, ASD is diagnosed in 1 of every 64 American children by the age of eight (8) years. Vitamin D deficiency has been hypothesized to contribute to ASD as far back as 2007.1 High doses of vitamin D were first proposed to have a significant treatment effect on the core symptoms of autism in 2013 based on vitamin D’s mechanisms of action, in particular in anti-inflammatory properties.2 Possible mechanisms of action that explain vitamin D helping attenuating ASD are well known, are related to the fact vitamin D is not a vitamin (it is a pro-hormone) and has been recently reviewed.3, 4 Besides reducing risk or severity through it’s steroid hormone anti-inflammatory effects in the brain, vitamin D regulates DNA repair mechanism genes, has autoimmune effects, raises seizure threshold, increases T-regulatory cells, protects neural mitochondria, and up-regulates glutathione, the master antioxidant, which scavenges oxidative by-products.5 Vitamin D’s anti-inflammatory and anti- autoimmune properties in ASD were evident in Mostafa et al’s study of 50 children with ASD, aged 5-12, which found 25(OH)D levels were very highly correlated with the presence of an anti-neural antibody (r = - 0.86;P < 0.001)) and that serum 25(OH)D levels in children were highly correlated with the severity of ASD symptoms on the Childhood Autism Rating Scale (r = - 0.81;P <0.001).6 Another one of vitamin D’s steroid hormone mechanism is through vitamin D’s effect on serotonin via direct genetic regulation of serotonin’s rate limiting enzymes; both the gene for peripheral tryptophan hydroxylase (TPH)1 and the gene for central TPH2 require vitamin D for transcription. Activated vitamin D (the steroid hormone) genetically down-regulates TPH1 while it up-regulates TPH2, thus explaining the serotonin paradox in ASD in which peripheral serotonin is increased but central serotonin is decreased.7 It is not known if any or all of these are possible mechanisms of action; steroid hormones effect multiple genes in multiple ways; it is possible there are different mechanisms at work in different individuals.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:38 am to
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ad hominy attacks


People throw dried corn at you?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64679 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:38 am to
Maybe we should just get each antivaxxer's respected doctor to sit them down and just hash it all out.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:38 am to
Your troll has gotten tired a while ago. Do you really lack so much attention in your personal life?

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How often does someone change their position on an issue?


More importantly, you will rarely or never find me seriously asserting that I know something that I don't actually know. I usually don't need to reverse position because I don't ignorantly take stands.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:39 am to
You should apologize for all of your stances
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:39 am to
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I recently cared for a baby that eventually died of pertussis. That could have been prevented if the parents had gotten a simple shot since the baby was too young to be fully immunized against it. Go frick off with your anti vaxx crap.


That's awful - I can see why you jumped my arse in another thread about my position.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:40 am to
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ad hominy attacks



People throw dried corn at you?





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Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:41 am to
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People throw dried corn at you?



Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:41 am to
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VAPOR TRAILS ARE REAL


But...but...but the sky is full of chemtrails. Have you not seen Snow Piercer?

Somehow the fact that air traffic above the continental US has increased exponentially in the last 20 years is lost on them.

I'm curious, along with fuel, air cargo, and luggage, where do commercial airliners store the chemicals that they spray?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216684 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:42 am to
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lsunurse



You still mad at me????
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:42 am to
Peej I was never mad at you
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64679 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:43 am to
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Wow. Tim Robbins is a very intelligent and educated man. He is not just some actor.


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He is not just some actor.


Why, yes he is. Did you miss out on his lifetime experience of acting, singing, and folk dancing? He also had parents who were folk dancers and singers?

Sounds like someone who would KNOW about health related subjects.


Read here and tell me where his expertise came from
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 10:44 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216684 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:44 am to
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Peej I was never mad at you



Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:45 am to
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Why, yes he is. Did you miss out on his lifetime experience of acting, singing, and folk dancing? He also had parents who were folk dancers and singers?

Sounds like someone who would KNOW about health related subjects.


I never said Tim Robbins did anything re: vaccinations. Someone else did, because he knows I admire Tim Robbins.

He is very well versed on matters of economics and world politics.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216684 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:46 am to
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yoga girl



You gonna answer my question?????
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:46 am to
Tim Robbins is considered one of our generation's intellectual giants. The shadow he casts over the world of philanthropy and humanitarianism is one that could freeze the depths of Hell.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11925 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:48 am to
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He is very well versed on matters of economics and world politics.


K, but the only reason you know who he is and have come to respect him is because he is an actor.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:49 am to
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Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:49 am to
If you can be talked out of your position that easily, then your position was obviously frickin stupid. Quit being an idiot and voicing your opinion on shite you know nothing about.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:50 am to
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K, but the only reason you know who he is and have come to respect him is because he is an actor.


No, but I would agree that I know who he is because he is an actor.
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