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re: Anyone here against legalizing marijuana?

Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:22 am to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100695 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:22 am to
Against. It's the gateway drug, if you take just one puff you're almost guaranteed to be a meth head down the road
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14945 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:49 am to
I hate cigarettes and if smoking those is bad for you then how can inhaling weed into ones lungs not be bad, too?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10081 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:50 am to
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cigarettes


isn't just tobacco and paper..
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92826 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:05 pm to
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There were so many asinine points in this post that I couldn't choose just one to respond to.


Sounds like you blazed one too many joints before posting. Can you say that in English please?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297585 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:07 pm to
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I hate cigarettes and if smoking those is bad for you then how can inhaling weed into ones lungs not be bad, too?


Who cares?

Why should the government protect you from yourself?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Sounds like you blazed one too many joints before posting. Can you say that in English please?


Lol you really can't understand that post?

I'll try simpler terms...

There is so much BS in your post that I couldn't choose just one point to call out in detail.

Make another post with just 1 or 2 BS points and we'll have a discussion.
Posted by Goat Rider
Boulder, CO
Member since Feb 2018
947 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:59 pm to
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I guarantee you a big reason marijuana is still illegal is from alcohol and tobacco lobbying.



You're exactly right.. Making marijuana legal - even for medical use - would mean the DEA would lose some funding and jobs, so there is one agency and union against it. The alcohol industry doesn't want the legal competition either, so there's more money against it. The pharmaceutical companies would rather you use their poison than a relatively harmless plant that you can grow yourself....Ditto for the tobacco industry, prison industries, police departments, and most importantly, your politicians, because a vote for legalization would deprive them of funding from those industries.

Come on people, smell the smoke! Who runs this country? Certainly not you and I, but most certainly big money - the politicians are just the smoke and mirrors to keep you thinking we have a government of the people. Meanwhile, a whole industry spins more stories to make sure the people they want get elected and stay in office where they can serve their corporate puppet masters.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:03 pm to
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You're exactly right.. Making marijuana legal - even for medical use - would mean the DEA would lose some funding and jobs, so there is one agency and union against it. The alcohol industry doesn't want the legal competition either, so there's more money against it. The pharmaceutical companies would rather you use their poison than a relatively harmless plant that you can grow yourself....Ditto for the tobacco industry, prison industries, police departments, and most importantly, your politicians, because a vote for legalization would deprive them of funding from those industries.

Come on people, smell the smoke! Who runs this country? Certainly not you and I, but most certainly big money - the politicians are just the smoke and mirrors to keep you thinking we have a government of the people. Meanwhile, a whole industry spins more stories to make sure the people they want get elected and stay in office where they can serve their corporate puppet masters.


Conspiracy theory about the pot industry

quote:

Boulder, CO


Checks out
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21556 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:05 pm to
Legalizing weed would help:

Remove criminal element.
Help reduce the number of prisoners.
Create taxes for state.

Alcohol is more dangerous and destructive.
Posted by Goat Rider
Boulder, CO
Member since Feb 2018
947 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Have you been to Denver? It ain't pretty.


I live in Boulder and go to Denver frequently. It's a great city. Construction is booming. The housing market is strong, low unemployment with new businesses moving there, great quality of life, and US News and World Report Colorado has the best economy in the nation.

For the record,Louisiana's economy is in the bottom 10.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:18 pm to
It's not really a conspiracy theory. I disagree with tobacco or alcohol necessarily being against it because it's a potential product and market that they would probably be easily ready to exploit themselves, but LEO and private prison industry certainly have a huge stake in trying to make sure that legal marijuana doesnt happen. It's just simple reasoning to see why. Not hard or a stretch at all to see.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:23 pm to
I agree, I was really just messing with him because he was from CO and was connecting some dots that aren't proven but definitely possible/believable.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37605 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:44 pm to
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As people out West are finding out, just because the state legalized weed doesn't mean that insurance companies will write insurances for businesses who hire people who can't pass a piss test.
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So far, companies in states that have legalized either recreational or medicinal marijuana are leading the way on dropping drug tests. A survey last year by the Mountain States Employers Council of 609 Colorado employers found that the share of companies testing for marijuana use fell to 66 percent, down from 77 percent the year before.

Companies are having a hard enough time hiring, with unemployment hovering around 4 percent. “Employers are really strapped and saying ‘We’re going to forgive certain things,’” said James Reidy, a lawyer that works with employers on their human resources policies. Reidy knows of a half-dozen other large employers that have quietly changed their policies in recent years. Not all companies want to advertise the change, fearing it might imply they are soft on drugs.

Employers can also get discounts on workers’ compensation insurance for maintaining a “drug-free workplace” by, in part, drug-testing workers. But the types of workplaces forgoing pre-employment tests already enjoy relatively small savings. A job in an office setting, for example, won’t have very many workers’ compensation claims, compared to a factory. The money saved by meeting the qualifications for a drug-free zone isn’t worth it.

“We assume that a certain level of employees are going to be partaking on the weekends,” said Reidy, the employment lawyer. “We don’t care. We’re going to exclude a whole group of people, and we desperately need workers.”



LINK
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:14 pm to
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As people out West are finding out, just because the state legalized weed doesn't mean that insurance companies will write insurances for businesses who hire people who can't pass a piss test.


And that's fine. Although I still think it is dumb for a business to use marijuana testing in its hiring process.


What if alcohol could be detected weeks after drinking it... having a positive alcohol test would not mean you were drunk on the job. It's the same thing for marijuana... you consume on the weekend and can get fired for a THC test the next week, when the psychoactive effects are long gone.

So however shortsighted the THC test is, it's still within businesses and the insurance company's rights.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37605 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:18 pm to
That wasn't my quote. It's the guy I was responding to.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:26 pm to
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That wasn't my quote. It's the guy I was responding to.


Figured so.

On the topic, THC tests might have thresholds set too low if positives show up weeks after consuming marijuana.

If someone is actually high on the job, you'd think their THC level will be much higher than someone who did it days ago.

Why not just increase the limits? Knowing that a daily user might still exceed the limit, but at least companies won't be excluding qualified people for no good reason.
Posted by Das_Wanda_kid
Member since Apr 2017
438 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Opioids are not even in the remote area of THC


I agree
Posted by Tuscaloosa
13x Award Winning SECRant user
Member since Dec 2011
50474 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:37 pm to
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This, was just in CO a few weeks ago, I know two Drs. One is an ER doc he said it has totally fricked things up.


Yeah, well I live here in CO, (and don’t smoke), and the only thing it has fricked up is the ability of these doctors to line their pockets, as people now can self medicate (for pennies on the dollar) for pain they’d have previously been billed thousands of dollars for had they visited a hospital.

The medical industry is among the most corrupt institutions in American history.

Meanwhile, multiple cities in Colorado are routinely ranked among the top places to live in America due to low crime and quality of life. The state collected over $250,000,000 in tax revenue in 2017 alone. Imagine if the podunk, shitty states we grew up in and many of you still live in got with the program and stopped pretending marijuana is the boogeyman.

I can’t believe I’m wasting my last post before football season on this nonsense. Some of the responses in this thread have been among the dumbest, most ill-informed opinions I have ever read on this site, and they’re being posted as fact. Nauseating.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23423 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:20 pm to
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dont need to be smelling that shite when im walking down the sidewalk


But we have to smell your nasty arse cigarettes?







Negative buddy i dont smoke and never have and never will try again
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:50 pm to
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some of the responses in this thread have been among the dumbest, most ill-informed opinions I have ever read on this site, and they’re being posted as fact. Nauseating


Welcome to trying to reason with people who have been indoctrinated to believe a certain way since childhood.
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