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re: Another casualty of the opiate epidemic

Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:36 am to
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:36 am to
Yeah, I tried to get her help man. I can only do so much. It's up to her to follow through with it.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:39 am to
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But the fact is she was leaving a wake of destruction in her path trying to cope with it.


Where was she getting the pills?

I ask this because it would probably be a deal breaker for the relationship if she was sucking dick to get pills.

I'm not saying that to be edgy or anything but had it gone that far?
Posted by Nomex0619
BR
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:41 am to
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420centraltime


Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
980 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:45 am to
You know, I would like to think she wouldn’t do that, but at this point I don’t even know anymore.
Posted by younger now
Member since Mar 2018
85 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:47 am to
My use of opiates also began after a really traumatic event. My selfishness came in the form of being too proud to accept help that was offered until it was too late, and the relationship I valued most was already destroyed.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1478 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:49 am to
I haven't read through the whole post but I only know 2 individuals that have been addicted to opiates and tried to kick the habit.

One guy got on with an outpatient clinic that provided counseling and withdrawal/detox medication. There are several, but a doctor can help find the best choice. This individual has been clean for 3-4 years now.

The other individual tried an inpatient, 2-month long, faith-based program. He is now sitting in jail awaiting arraignment after his 3rd arrest. Don't think he is getting out anytime soon.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:00 pm to
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You know, I would like to think she wouldn’t do that, but at this point I don’t even know anymore.


You said she stole 800 from your family business. How does your family feel about her and you possibly taking her back?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23987 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:05 pm to
$800 in the grand scheme of things is chump change.

I was fortunate to always have a good job and be able to afford my own shite, but, as sick as this sounds, I loved funerals, because we would always go back to the deceased's house and I could raid their pill cabinets for percs and vics.

I was a sick puppy for awhile.

Rehab was good for me. It got me on the right meds for my bipolar disorder and has kept me on the straight and narrow. A lot of what you hear in there will be bullshite, but take the break and use it to work on yourself (or herself as is the case right now.)

Don't be rebellious. Just go with the flow.

There were a lot of things I despised about rehab, but it introduced me to Refuge Recovery and for that I'm forever thankful.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:07 pm to
Well, these are some new revelations. But after some thought I'd stick with my initial conclusions. Totally sucks about what happened to her but she was shown the right way to go about healing as well as possible and she went down a completely different path toward self-destruction and harm to others.

frick that noise.

She stole from you and your family. She ignored the help you tried to offer.

Get your arse tested for STD's immediately.

You need a fresh start. Sounds like you did what you could do.

She needs to get clean and get a fresh start as well.

Time to part ways. She needs to fight the addiction demon and then deal with the assault.
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
980 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:11 pm to
My father is willing to help her, but my mother is pretty adamant about her not coming back. With my uncle dying who had 50% of the business, we now have 3 new partners. It's not really the money that bothers us, it's the opportunity she saw when my uncle wasen't going to be able to make it back to work and the cover up that she did. I mean she had me and my parents paranoid as hell that someone was breaking into the house. There was no evidence of a break in period. We are about to spend 3000$ on a camera system and she was going to sit there and let it happen.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85986 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:14 pm to
Obviously she's not right and it doesn't sound like she's had any time to deal with the trauma.

She needs help, and it's not particularly fair to ask you to do it.

Have you talked to a counselor or addiction professional about what you need to be doing?
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
980 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:15 pm to
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$800 in the grand scheme of things is chump change


It is. But I've seen many of my friends go down the opiate path only to continuously fail. The only way they were able to get clean was to move away from everything or end up in prison for an extended amount of time.

I can't count on both hands how many time I've seen someone get out of jail or rehab and claim they are clean and found religion only to go right back to doing what they were doing.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62021 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:16 pm to
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420centraltime


I don't know if you've missed my posts, or just didn't care to respond. But, unless you are willing to totally be sober yourself, there is no decision to make.

The irony in these situations is that, assuming the addict really has it in them to change, the people around them usually don't.

So, while you are too good for her (the addict), there is a very good chance that you aren't good enough for her (the recovering addict).
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
980 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:19 pm to
I don’t smoke or drink. I can count on one hand how many pills I’ve taken in the last few months. I have no problem being sober.

I Didn’t touch any narcotics for 6 years before I had 3 surgery’s in under a year.

I was 3 days clean in December and I was feeling good, then I had a Crohns flare up and ended up in the hospital for 3 days being shot up with Dilaudid and sent home with a prescription. It’s a vicious cycle.
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
980 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:24 pm to
I will say that when we took them together I told her multiple times she doesn’t want to go down this path. When I had my own pills come up missing and her money situation was going down hill I told her enough was enough. I weened her off and detoxed her myself. I told her it’s either me and the pills. And she knew that and she still chose to do what she did.
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46098 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:24 pm to
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I’m so sorry. You need to cut all ties while you’re not legally bound to her.

It's tough to do, but it has to be done.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46098 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:29 pm to
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I would like to think she wouldn’t do that, but at this point I don’t even know anymore

Yes, she would. If she's an addict, she's in survival mode and survival is the next fix. If she'll steal from you, sell her ring and her laptop, and hide it all, she'll do whatever it takes to get her next fix.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79162 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:34 pm to
Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me twice, you can't get fooled again.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:35 pm to
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The other individual tried an inpatient, 2-month long, faith-based program. He is now sitting in jail awaiting arraignment after his 3rd arrest. Don't think he is getting out anytime soon
The longer the better.i had a friend that was in a similar situation and did about 3-4 yrs. in jail,came out clean and is doing very well now.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 12:36 pm to
What kind of opiates are you talking about?
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