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re: Another Brad Pitt Make it Right home demolished in the Lower 9th Ward

Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:28 am to
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What kind of homeowner "reports" a leaking roof instead of fixing it or hiring a roofer?


Maybe they had that 20 yr home warranty.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11159 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:33 am to
Can i get clarification: Did people buy these houses or were they free?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27202 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:36 am to
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Can i get clarification: Did people buy these houses or were they free?



I believe they were heavily subsidized but not free.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150742 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:44 am to
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These homes were bought by the occupants, yes?
They aren't tenants.
What kind of homeowner "reports" a leaking roof instead of fixing it or hiring a roofer?
Especially for 3 damn years.

I'd be interested to see what sort of deal was in place when they received the home. I have a feeling they were either given the home, or sold it at a significantly reduced rate.

I used to work in an office that did housing programs, and we used to give people homes for free as long as they met a certain criteria (benefitted low-mod income people/families). And I went out and monitored some of those programs for compliance, and I can tell you that sometimes we'd go to a home and it was in peak condition still, and the little old lady that lived there and worked as a WalMart greeter couldn't have been more sweet and appreciative. And then sometimes we'd go and the whole house was falling apart and filthy, and the person living there didn't do shite and her drugdealer son had run of the house. So it really all depends on the homeowner and what they do with it in terms of upkeep.

There were some houses that were several years old that looked brand new, and some that were several years old that looked condemned. I imagine this situation is similar.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11159 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:49 am to
Gotcha.

I have a cousin that builds section 8 housing. He says you have to make them bulletproof, pretty much like a jail. Cinder block walls, bars on the windows, etc or they will get destroyed in no time. All repairs and maintenance have to be done in the mornings, and preferably by minority repairmen so they dont get robbed, cant leave any tools or materials out. Have to get in and finish the job and get out as quickly as possible. Those areas are just like a 3rd world country.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90617 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:55 am to
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Maybe if the residents/owners of these homes had done the minimal upkeep/maintenance on the homes, they'd still be livable.

There is a reason there is section 8 and hud...

Home ownership isn't just about having your name on a piece of paper.. You do have to do constant upkeep to retain its value, and in habitability.


This. It’s not like the older well built homes that end up in the ghetto are in any better shape. A cheap built home isn’t going to last long if you neglect it
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7579 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:56 am to
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Most of those homes that were standing til Katrina were made of cypress and other hardwoods built 70+ years ago.

As a contractor, this would be an immediate red flag:
quote:

The specialty lumber they had selected for its added silicon and supposed ability to resist rot, TimberSIL, was indeed already mildewing.

They could have built twice the number of houses for what they spent that would have stood for 25 years with minimal maintenance if they kept it simple, vs. making a statement.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 8:57 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33895 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:59 am to
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I did the floors in the very first one of these homes, it was the Global Green home.


Did it use untreated wood I joists? That and lack of adequate squash blocking caused all of the ones we inspected to be fricked from the beginning.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:03 am to
Weren't those houses built by Mike Holmes, the "Holmes on Homes" TV show guy who goes around and fixes or rebuilds homes, supposedly correcting the shoddy work of other contractors/construction companies?
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1809 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:18 am to
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Weren't those houses built by Mike Holmes, the "Holmes on Homes" TV show guy


No. I thought he was involved with this but he mostly wasn't. Brad Pitt's group used the "Make it Right" slogan even though Mike Holmes owned it. Holmes found out and decided not to sue because Pitt was trying to do a good thing.

Holmes' team went down and filmed a two hour special where they built one house. Other than that they've had no affiliation with the project. The person living in that house is said to be very happy.

I care because I'm a huge Mike Holmes fan. and I was disappointed when I thought he was involved with shoddy work. After a bit of googling I found the above story repeated many times. Faith in Mike Holmes remains high on my end.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:44 am to
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BRAD decided to build “green” homes based on his ideology, instead of using known construction materials and design. His stupidity is part of the problem.


The houses had to comply with local building code, they were permitted, and inspected by city /parish housing authorities.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:49 am to
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I have a cousin that builds section 8 housing. He says you have to make them bulletproof, pretty much like a jail. Cinder block walls, bars on the windows, etc or they will get destroyed in no time. All repairs and maintenance have to be done in the mornings, and preferably by minority repairmen so they dont get robbed, cant leave any tools or materials out. Have to get in and finish the job and get out as quickly as possible. Those areas are just like a 3rd world country.


I can vouch for this, I worked a summer on a maintenance crew in a housing project. Most people would not believe the damage that can be done in
short period of time. we cleaned and painted apartments, they could be so bad after only a few weeks of occupancy that a wheelbarrow and shovels were typically used to start the cleanup. We had a armed security guard with us at all times.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 11:20 am
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