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re: Anesthesiologist & Medical Assistant: vicious commentary with a sedated patient

Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162049 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:52 pm to
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What people need to understand is that patients need to be nice to the doctor as well.


Agreed. but the patient wasn't mean; he had a problem with needles/the IV. This happens.

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What happens if the patient gets aggressive?


legal medical restraints and ativan.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162049 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162049 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:57 pm to
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It sucks I'm unsure about this, but the hemorrhoid diagnosis actually could be detrimental to the patient if his colonoscopy was billed as a screening benefit (i.e. preventative). Any medical problems uncovered during the course of a screening colonoscopy automatically coverts the procedure to a medical colonoscopy, which is not a 100% covered service.


You may be correct. Each polyp is out of pocket and can be $250 per polyp. I blame the attorney for not making this the issue. he didn't so something is up.

Even though it sucks it may have been done as a courtesy and is GI routine but it is a no no. falsification of medical records is falsification of medical records; could be the case

ETA: if the patient was unremarkable/clean his bill would remain the same so your theory does not apply.

As well as, if they found what they glean as polyps that look cancerous and patient was belly up full of them. Their discussion could have been about this and very harmful to the patient-to hear the everyday talk i e...well this one has - months to live blah blah blah.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:17 pm to
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Aw yea
Wait a minute, all this time the "Epic" stood for that Epic?

Never woulda guessed it.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2800 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:37 pm to
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I have a friend who was seen in a urgent care clinic by a female PA.


Unless you are getting a splinter pulled from your toe or some similar barely medical need, you should NEVER go to an Urgent Care clinic.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:42 pm to
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You pay a $25 copay for someone to clean out your b-hole, and you're mad that they don't read you a story first?


Plus premiums my man. Family health insurance average is about $13k per year in this country. Thats pretty absurd.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:52 pm to
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And that doctor was dismissed from case.....meanwhile the comedian anesthesiologist lost her career




He was dismissed because he settled at the courthouse door. He did not get off scott free. I know the article doesn't say that because I am sure the settlement was confidential but trust me. He paid.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Shamalamadingdong
Member since Mar 2015
188 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:55 pm to
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Yall missed the most important and baffling part of the suit.....the anesthesiologist cracking jokes about the butt hurt douchebag lost a suit for the jokes.....

While the fraudulent GI doc who falsified medical records got off Scott free.



She was the one who falsified the records. Not the gastroenterologist. That is why he got off.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:59 pm to
now people can be sued for their thoughts because:

me awake is to your thoughts

as

me asleep is to your speaking.

both of the scenarios produce exactly the same result.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23144 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:08 pm to
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He was dismissed because he settled at the courthouse door. He did not get off scott free. I know the article doesn't say that because I am sure the settlement was confidential but trust me. He paid.


No, he didn't.

There isn't a single medmal claims agent in this country that would have agreed to a settlement on the claim against Dr. Shah, assuming the printed story is accurate. HE was dropped as defendant b/c there was no case against him.

It's not the docs money paying for a settlement.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:08 pm to
Except I cannot record your thoughts later for me to hear how you defamed me and defrauded me in your head.
Posted by BeaumontBengal
Member since Feb 2005
2376 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:09 pm to
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Doctors and health care professionals - this is why the general public generally despises you. We are paying out the arse for your services and we get treated like dogs shite on your shoe.


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Plus premiums my man. Family health insurance average is about $13k per year in this country. Thats pretty absurd.



What you pay to the insurance company is between you and the insurance company It's the insurance company raping your wallet, not the MD.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:18 pm to
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What you pay to the insurance company is between you and the insurance company It's the insurance company raping your wallet, not the MD.


Well except for the provider agreement where my insurer agrees to pay the doctor out of my and other insured's premium dollars.

Let's not act like the astronomical cost of health care isn't the driving force behind health care insurance premium increases.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71893 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:23 pm to
Well you've no idea how much self pay is going on in this hospital. I know plenty of people don't pay their bill, but go look up what's going on with medicaid and what CFOs are doing to counteract the issue. Are you insinuating hospitals should be able to turn away folks in need if they don't have insurance?
Posted by BeaumontBengal
Member since Feb 2005
2376 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:24 pm to
Do you think the insurance company pays what you pay to the individual providers? Hell no, they're getting rich, and so is the hospital/facility CEO where most of your payment goes.

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Family health insurance average is about $13k per year in this country. Thats pretty absurd.


What do suggest health cost by the way?

Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:25 pm to
The GI falsified the medical record. That is malpractice. He paid.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23144 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:29 pm to
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The GI falsified the medical record.


That's not what the article said. It said the tech entered the 445.6 at the behest of the anesthesiologist. Which is completely out of whack, and would infuriate all the GI's I know, but I can only go off of what the article said.



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That is malpractice. He paid.


Why would the plaintiff settle on the only claim that actually qualified as malpractice, yet pursue the others? If your scenario is accurate, of course.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Do you think the insurance company pays what you pay to the individual providers? Hell no, they're getting rich, and so is the hospital/facility CEO where most of your payment goes.



Doctors should use their leverage to negotiate a better deal with the hospital then. Besides, I don't know any poor docs other than the ones that took their fortune from practicing medicine then blew it on bad investments.

And as for what it should cost? I'll open up with what premiums were ten years ago plus annual adjustment for inflation. I'd go for that.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14787 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:32 pm to
Still had medmal against the anesthesiologist and she is where the heat in the case was. Definitely taking her to a jury. The GI was liable but his was mostly from letting that all go on. The medical record is is responsibility.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23144 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:33 pm to
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The GI was liable but his was mostly from letting that all go on. The medical record is is responsibility.


That we agree on.
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