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re: "An Open Letter to White Men in America"

Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:58 am to
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You make you're own path in life and sleep in the bed you make.

This is the line of thinking that shows a complete lack of empathy for those who are less privileged. Some people don't have the same resources available to them as those more fortunate than them.

For example, I was lucky enough to go to Catholic school my whole life in New Orleans. Here, that's a huge advantage to someone that had to attend public schools that same time. But that option isn't available to all people.


so, ultimately, any kind of privilege held by a person requires empathy from that person to others without said privilege? ...

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:00 am to
My father came here from a country torn by corruption and civil unrest. He worked his arse off and became wealthy.

I try to not oppress black people with my white privilege, but it's tough.

Question: Do I have white privilege if my dad isn't white?
Posted by PKTiger
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:05 am to
Nothing is required, but I think an intelligent person should be able recognize some of the advantages they've had in life. Being empathetic means acknowledging your privilege rather than looking down on someone who didn't have the same opportunity you had.

In no way is that an apology or a free pass in life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:08 am to
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Being empathetic means acknowledging your privilege rather than looking down on someone who didn't have the same opportunity you had.


Do all white people have this "privilege?"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:10 am to
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What good parent would teach their child be racist based on names


It's not racist. It's prejudice and everyone is prejudiced

What about someone named Billy Bob?

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:13 am to
I know a black girl who changed her name because she hated it and didn't want it to affect her ability to get a job.
Posted by PKTiger
NOLA
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:13 am to
Some of the privileges break around the poverty line, but there are others that transcend financial impact.

Blacks are more likely to get tough penalties for the same crime. They are more likely to get stopped by police. They are less likely to get a job with the same qualifications.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:14 am to
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I know a black girl who changed her name because she hated it and didn't want it to affect her ability to get a job.


I imagine if my parents named me Rufus or Jim Bob, I'd do the same.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:16 am to
I used to hate my name growing up. I wanted to be named "Kevin" or "Jason". I just wanted to fit in like the other kids. Now, I appreciate my name and where my family (both sides) came from.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:16 am to
I like the name Rufus.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:17 am to
I almost named a dog Rufus. I was afraid it would stigmatize the poor fella.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294984 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:19 am to
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I used to hate my name growing up. I wanted to be named "Kevin" or "Jason". I just wanted to fit in like the other kids. Now, I appreciate my name and where my family (both sides) came from.


My mom changed my name, informally, with the intent of legally changing it. Never did, but all my school records were under my "alternate" name. So I'm known by several names, depending on the person I'm dealing with.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294984 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:21 am to
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Some of the privileges break around the poverty line, but there are others that transcend financial impact.


So these "privileges" are situational, and subjective depending on how they work for you or not.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12447 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:29 am to
I'm just an average guy. I certainly didn't start on 3rd, but in a middle class white family maybe I was on 1st. Odds are I'll never make it all the way around the bases and be an OT millionaire.

I want to do well by my family and work hard and maybe start my kids a little further along then I did.

I'd like to see those ahead in the game, and behind do the same. It is disappointing how often lately I see people saying I should be tripped on my way to 2nd. Seems far easier to just get on the same team and travel the path together instead of taking each other out at the knees so everyone can be on the ground in the same place going nowhere.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:40 am to
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hey are less likely to get a job with the same qualifications.


Bull. Mother. fricking. shite.

30 years ago maybe.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:40 am to
Especially government jobs. You're a shoe-in if you're a minority.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:41 am to
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Do all white people have this "privilege?"


Nope. I had some privilege bc my dad went from sleeping on dirt floors as a kid to very successful businessman so he got me started on the right foot and taught me lessons about hard work.

I also know guys with as much or more than I ever had and bc of their terrible work ethic and poor decision making they're living like bums.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:44 am to
And industrial jobs, and Fortune 500 corporations, etc.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:09 pm to
No one said pimping is easy...in fact quite the opposite

GFY and I voted for Obama
Posted by waynecedar30
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
628 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 4:20 pm to
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Dear black guys: Don't abandon your kids. Study up on the benefits of a dual income household. Don't deal drugs. An education is important. Take some tips from the Asians. They focus on family and education and the magically are doing just fine a few generations later in the face of past prejudice and unimaginable poverty. It's not privilege. It's the fact that I was given a decent education and work ethic by my parents. Signed, White Guy
. This times 100!!
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