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re: America has reached peak obesity, obesity rates fall for the first time.

Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:23 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:23 am to
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get that people are hopeful but there is a major flaw— people are not solving the habits and issues that created the obesity — fat = inflammation. Just because Ozempic is shrinking the fat cells doesn’t mean the extreme metabolic issues have disappeared or the fact that the gut is still, in many ways, wrecked.


I hope trump wins and rfk lights into the FDA and other government agencies to get some of the poison out of our food supply.

That will help.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:25 am to
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Educate citizens on the truth about sugar vs fat.
this

I can't believe there are still a majority of people who think fats.. In particular animal fats are a problem.

Eta more vegans! Let's create more fake meat in labs that resembles animal meat. Those guys are so green and so healthy.
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:29 am to
Oh
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Oh I shite my pants...
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:29 am to
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hope trump wins and rfk lights into the FDA and other government agencies to get some of the poison out of our food supply.



Absolutely .. the quicker people come to understand that 80% of what's in their pantry is absolute poison they better of we'd be..

I mean big shocker when two of the worlds largest cigarette manufacturers bought up most foods producing companies.. Did people expect no calamity of addiction was to follow?
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by Limitlesstigers
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:53 am to
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Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:10 am to
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Probably not for long. The FDA just took one of the weight loss drugs off of the shortage list which means that people can’t pay $400/month for it anymore and the price is going back to $2000+ a month.


There is still a shortage. And, no drug becomes less available over time. The prices drop and then generics come on line. Insurance companies lose an enormous amount of money on obesity. The benefits of GLP-1s are far reaching and will lower those costs, making it likely they will start covering it more readily.

We finally have something for obesity and curmudgeons of the OT have a problem with that.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:31 am to
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We finally have something for obesity


It’s not “something” for obesity because you aren’t solving the problem. If you use an alternative to stop smoking or using tobacco products, you are solving the problem. This is masking the nutritional and food addiction problem and saying hey it’s okay just take this shot and change nothing else.
Posted by Randall Savauge
Member since Aug 2021
547 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 11:48 am to
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This is masking the nutritional and food addiction problem and saying hey it’s okay just take this shot and change nothing else.


Literally no one is saying this.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69445 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 11:54 am to
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The Gall Bladder does not process fat. It's simply a holding tank for bile.


Yea, I was just gonna let it go but you stepped in.



No gall bladder here. No holding tank. Worst thing that has ever happened to me and I broke my back on a dirtbike


Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:41 pm to
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the sorority girl that wants to lose 20 pounds


I'm about 40-ish pounds overweight. I stay between 30-40 pounds overweight, and I just can't shake it. Haven't been able to for a couple of years. I'm about to add long distance running to my routine. If that doesn't help, I may see about getting some. I'm healthy, I just added a life insurance policy and the only thing I got dinged on was my weight.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37470 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 12:58 pm to
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It’s not “something” for obesity because you aren’t solving the problem. If you use an alternative to stop smoking or using tobacco products, you are solving the problem. This is masking the nutritional and food addiction problem and saying hey it’s okay just take this shot and change nothing else.
Define "alternative." If I use a vape, or Zyn, or nicorette gum, to stop smoking, I still have the same root problem: addiction to nicotine. Maybe you're referring to... ahem... medication?

And I continue to see (not necessarily directed at you), the same logical fallacies employed over and over in this thread. No one is arguing (at least I'm not) that medication should be the only treatment for obesity. No one is arguing against education, therapy, better diet, exercise, or improving our food supply. Yet people continue to argue as if we can only choose one option.

An argument for semaglutides is not an argument against exercise and a proper diet.

Conversely, an argument for better food regulations is not an argument against semaglutides.

If you want to argue against semaglutides, make an argument against semaglutides. Because almost everyone already agrees that food is shite, people should exercise, and food addiction should be addressed. None of those are arguments against semaglutides.

As I said before, the obesity problem is multi-faceted. The solution probably is too. Education, improved food supply, physical activity, less reliance on processed food, medication for those that benefit from it. These are all tools we should be using. Why are some of you acting like we have to pick and choose?
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:14 pm to
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Literally no one is saying this.


Sure you are. You’re fricking 291 pounds and needed a shot to motivate you to improve your life.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:16 pm to
I have zero issue with semaglutides to assist with obesity. I have an issue that it’s being used by everyone for weight loss without seeing much change in diet, physical fitness, or nutrition in general. Hell the commercials basically are advertising take this shot and don’t do shite else
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91170 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:20 pm to
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have zero issue with semaglutides to assist with obesity


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Sure you are. You’re fricking 291 pounds and needed a shot to motivate you to improve your life.


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37470 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:22 pm to
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I have zero issue with semaglutides to assist with obesity. I have an issue that it’s being used by everyone for weight loss without seeing much change in diet, physical fitness, or nutrition in general. Hell the commercials basically are advertising take this shot and don’t do shite else
Yeah, I'd prefer that everyone had the internal discipline to manage their health and weight naturally as well. But that clearly isn't the case. Semaglutides aren't a perfect solution, but don't make perfect the enemy of good.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:24 pm to
What’s funny? Sorry I don’t consider the BMI chart as the most accurate depiction of obesity considering someone that’s 5’11” 215 is “obese”.

Unless he’s 5-8 291, why does he need semaglutides to lose weight? I’m genuinely curious with the love for fat fricks on this board
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91170 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:25 pm to
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you aren’t solving the problem. If you use an alternative to stop smoking or using tobacco products, you are solving the problem. This is masking the nutritional and food addiction problem and saying hey it’s okay just take this shot and change nothing else.


Ok genius. In your view some baw who weighs 300lbs that uses this and drops 100lbs isn't going to be motivated to live a more active life at 200lbs?

Think about what you can't do at 300 vs what you can at 200. Multiple folks in this thread have said this was a lifesaver to get them back to being more active and responsible but instead you want shite all over them and assume they're going to do nothing to tone up or increase their cardio.

I'm pretty sure there are tons of baws that were active in their youth that felt hopeless and this has given them another chance to be the person they once were.

Y'all are so fricking cynical.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:29 pm to
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In your view some baw who weighs 300lbs that uses this and drops 100lbs isn't going to be motivated to live a more active life at 200lbs?


Some will, some won’t. Why do you need a shot to be motivated though? This board is fricking double standard central . Imagine the response if I said a baw that is tired of being 150 used TRT to get up to 180 and now feels like a new man.

Everyone would be screaming about roids.


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I'm pretty sure there are tons of baws that were active in their youth that felt hopeless


And again, they need a shot to make that change?
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91170 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Some will, some won’t. Why do you need a shot to be motivated though?
Jesus Christ you are too dumb to argue with
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11048 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 1:32 pm to
Poor baby, how much do you weigh? How much has ozempic changed your life?

Funny how you agreed with me on several things but you’re losing your shite over the shot
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 1:33 pm
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