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re: Am I Essentially Doomed To Weight Loss/Diabetes Medicine?
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:04 pm to TheMagicMan
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:04 pm to TheMagicMan
Hang in there man. I got put on that medicine a couple of months ago. I got type 2 diabetes. Due to a failed neck fusion and numerous bulging disc down my spine, excercise is a no go. Even doing the dishes makes my legs go numb. Since taking mounjaro, my blood sugar has been great and lost weight. But you have to be very careful because it takes away your appetite. Your blood sugar can tank fast while you sleep. I highly recommend dexcom 7 to monitor your blood sugar. It will set off alarms if it gets low. One night it dropped to 50 and I almost passed out.
Good luck and hope everything works out for you
Good luck and hope everything works out for you
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:07 pm to TheMagicMan
In Feb 2025, I went to the hospital having problems breathing. The next morning I could breathe, but the doctor said I was prediabetic and it could be controlled. The next day a different doctor same hospital said I had Diabetes 2, and presectibe Metaforim and three other pills to take for the rest of my life and discharged me.
I was in shock at the whole situation. I got on line and got four or five books about diabetes from the library. I started reading. I knew i had to lose weight.
I started eating more sensibly, decided Met wasn't for me and quit it after twenty days (I had read it would clear my sustem in two weeks). I started taking blood glucose fasting tests every morning.
I got out of the diabetes range in two months, and I left Prediabetes in December.
I'm doing this without shots, pills or medicine. This morning my glucose was 86 and has only touched 90 twice last month. My A1c (that I do at home every three months is 4.6 and 4.7 most recently.
I highly recommend the books by Dr. Jason Fung. After reading the library copies, I bought my own and mark them up and take notes.
I have shocked most who know me because they say they couldn't have done this. I see it as not having a choice, but I have lost weight that my skin is loose.
I'm also now into fasting to remove visceral fat. And I have read a fair number of the scientifically reviewed publications that are referenced in the books.
I am old, and stubborn and probably healthier than I have been in decades. And some inflammation problems that crept up on me are leaving as lagniappe.
I was in shock at the whole situation. I got on line and got four or five books about diabetes from the library. I started reading. I knew i had to lose weight.
I started eating more sensibly, decided Met wasn't for me and quit it after twenty days (I had read it would clear my sustem in two weeks). I started taking blood glucose fasting tests every morning.
I got out of the diabetes range in two months, and I left Prediabetes in December.
I'm doing this without shots, pills or medicine. This morning my glucose was 86 and has only touched 90 twice last month. My A1c (that I do at home every three months is 4.6 and 4.7 most recently.
I highly recommend the books by Dr. Jason Fung. After reading the library copies, I bought my own and mark them up and take notes.
I have shocked most who know me because they say they couldn't have done this. I see it as not having a choice, but I have lost weight that my skin is loose.
I'm also now into fasting to remove visceral fat. And I have read a fair number of the scientifically reviewed publications that are referenced in the books.
I am old, and stubborn and probably healthier than I have been in decades. And some inflammation problems that crept up on me are leaving as lagniappe.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:16 pm to TheMagicMan
I would try some form of exercise. Some friends got into cycling to get into shape. They lost some weight, improved cardio and felt a lot better.
I did not have a weight issue, but did ride for my own exercise - found recumbents to be less painful.
But it only works if you actually do it.
I did not have a weight issue, but did ride for my own exercise - found recumbents to be less painful.
But it only works if you actually do it.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:21 pm to TheMagicMan
If you continue to do nothing then you’re destined for the fat shots. If you actually get off your arse and work out then you can change quickly. Meal plan, work out, and fast. That’s the formula. You’re welcome.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:38 pm to TheMagicMan
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Plus do we really know the long term effects of GLP-1's?
I'll just jump in here. We may not know the long term effects, although I believe these have been around longer than most people think. We do know the long term effects of obesity and diabetes. So consider that.
You've really only got two options. Lifestyle change or medication. It's up to you to decide, but whichever you decide, you just need to commit.
If my Dr told me that it would be impossible to lose 30 lbs, I'd find a new Dr.
Either way, good luck and hope things get better for you.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 12:31 am to TheMagicMan
Man, one thing I have learned as I have gotten older is that if you are genetically programmed to have a problem, nature will win out. I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol (at different times). Each time, I told my doctor I would tighten up on my diet and I ultimately dropped my blood pressure as well as my cholesterol. You can typically meet some specs by basically excercising like crazy and eating very little.
But that is not sustainable long-term. And it all gets more difficult as you age, because your metabolism slows. I would try the meds that you have been offered with intent to back off the dosage or frequency as you hit targets.
But that is not sustainable long-term. And it all gets more difficult as you age, because your metabolism slows. I would try the meds that you have been offered with intent to back off the dosage or frequency as you hit targets.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:07 am to TheMagicMan
Of course you can lose weight and go off of it, BUT most people who do gain it back. That doesn’t mean you will if you make a few adjustments
Posted on 5/22/26 at 3:59 am to BabyTac
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Don’t listen to the doctor. Get on a healthy diet, and get on a running program. Come this fall join a group to train for a marathon.
This is the first ever BabyTac post I have ever agreed with. I tell people all the time, once you hit over 20 miles a week, you can eat just about whatever you want. This doesn’t have to be hard running (although some of that is beneficial). Most of your runs should be easy enough to have a conversation.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:31 am to TheMagicMan
Type II diabetic here, for 11 yrs, and 76 yrs old this will be an unpopular opinion for some, I don't care.
Lifestyle and diet change, you have to do it, and it can be done, plenty people are doing it. I went keto/carnivore November of 25 i lost 15 lbs and i wasn't o/weight...Absolutely NO SUGAR at all, cut out all potatoes,rice all grains, and white bread, rarely eat fruits,when i do its blackberries with icelandic yogurt that I make. I sometimes cheat, we all do you will too year and a half into it mostly eat carnivore and absolutely no seed oils I cook with tallow, lard, and butter, Maple hill to be exact
I workout at home, I try to get 50 pushups a day, weighted toe raises have 2 12 lbs dumbells that I use, curls presses etc, I take no medication for my diabetes haven't for at least a year, joint pain is gone, my sleep is much better, rarely have headaches, which I always had, my numbers are good A1c 5.9 goal is under 5, fasting insulin is 1.7 lipid panel is the slowest to correct but its getting there also all this I contribute to dietary changes
Takes some discipline at first, Read labels on foods and learn what the food does and will do to your diabetes plenty DRS out there that i follow
Ken Berry carnivore guy, Ben Binkman, Dr Peter Ludwig Jason Fong
and many others you can reverse your Diabetes don't let anybody tell you you can't , and get a CGM constant glucose meter, I use a stello dexcom
cost 98 bucks for 2 sensors 15 day each, beats finger pricking, although i still prick, mainly to check my ketones,
As far as medications, hard pass for me, I did insulin for the 1st 3 months then quit, if you feel the need take Berberine instead, and research glp1s.
exactly what my DR said, you control it, not medicate it your Dr will eventually ask you what are you doing good luck Research research and more research
Lifestyle and diet change, you have to do it, and it can be done, plenty people are doing it. I went keto/carnivore November of 25 i lost 15 lbs and i wasn't o/weight...Absolutely NO SUGAR at all, cut out all potatoes,rice all grains, and white bread, rarely eat fruits,when i do its blackberries with icelandic yogurt that I make. I sometimes cheat, we all do you will too year and a half into it mostly eat carnivore and absolutely no seed oils I cook with tallow, lard, and butter, Maple hill to be exact
I workout at home, I try to get 50 pushups a day, weighted toe raises have 2 12 lbs dumbells that I use, curls presses etc, I take no medication for my diabetes haven't for at least a year, joint pain is gone, my sleep is much better, rarely have headaches, which I always had, my numbers are good A1c 5.9 goal is under 5, fasting insulin is 1.7 lipid panel is the slowest to correct but its getting there also all this I contribute to dietary changes
Takes some discipline at first, Read labels on foods and learn what the food does and will do to your diabetes plenty DRS out there that i follow
Ken Berry carnivore guy, Ben Binkman, Dr Peter Ludwig Jason Fong
and many others you can reverse your Diabetes don't let anybody tell you you can't , and get a CGM constant glucose meter, I use a stello dexcom
cost 98 bucks for 2 sensors 15 day each, beats finger pricking, although i still prick, mainly to check my ketones,
As far as medications, hard pass for me, I did insulin for the 1st 3 months then quit, if you feel the need take Berberine instead, and research glp1s.
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It's just a gut punch, as the doctor said I would be on it the rest of my life. I asked about getting the weight down with it and then going off the medication, but she essentially said all the weight would come back if I go off it. Another reason I'm hesitant to even start.
exactly what my DR said, you control it, not medicate it your Dr will eventually ask you what are you doing good luck Research research and more research
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:00 am to TheMagicMan
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I'm 42 and up until late last year, I did work out a fair amount. Would go to the gym 4 days a week and had a workout set up by one of the trainers for each day. Typically on one of the other days I would at least try to get a good jog or power walk in. I suffered an ankle injury last December. Was in physical therapy for it in January, February and April. I had to take off March as that is when my dad passed away. After this weekend (I'll be away on a trip), I'm going to start getting back into the gym 4 days a week. The only problem now, when it comes to cardio, is that I suffer from shin splints. It gets really painful really quickly for me on the treadmill. I might try to supplement with swimming as well as using the rower instead of the treadmill.
All I hear from you is reasons why you can’t or won’t. STFU and take control of yourself, stop making bullshite reasons, and do something about it.
You saying you need meds and you don’t know what to do and in the same breath bitching about controlling your cravings. Take some accountability for yourself and put down the fricking snacks.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 5:15 am
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:12 am to TheMagicMan
Lose weight, even moderate exercise and you will be able to get off meds
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:21 am to TheMagicMan
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:31 am to Reubaltaich
Snacking or 'grazing' is a huge factor in why folks have a hard time losing weight.
Every time you eat something, your body starts to produce insulin to work on that food which you eat.
Insulin is the fat storage hormone. Cortisol, which is a stress hormone, also leads to fat storage.
Get on a ketogenic or carnivore style diet. There is tons of information on it on social media.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad. It digs down deep into your soul and heart,
Time will heal the hurt. Just smile every time you think of him and the good times you had together. and thank the Lord above for your father,
Every time you eat something, your body starts to produce insulin to work on that food which you eat.
Insulin is the fat storage hormone. Cortisol, which is a stress hormone, also leads to fat storage.
Get on a ketogenic or carnivore style diet. There is tons of information on it on social media.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad. It digs down deep into your soul and heart,
Time will heal the hurt. Just smile every time you think of him and the good times you had together. and thank the Lord above for your father,
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:43 am to TheMagicMan
This little story by Joe Burrow kind of opened my eyes to how I eat and view food.
My whole life I reached for the fried chicken and never wanted the salad. Now I get it.
My whole life I reached for the fried chicken and never wanted the salad. Now I get it.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:44 am to tigerbutt
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Get off the sugar. Trust me
The carbs are just as bad.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:55 am to jscrims
quote:Thank you. The entire thing read like a damn pity party.
All I hear from you is reasons why you can’t or won’t. STFU and take control of yourself, stop making bullshite reasons, and do something about it.
You saying you need meds and you don’t know what to do and in the same breath bitching about controlling your cravings. Take some accountability for yourself and put down the fricking snacks.
What kind of doctor tells a guy who just needs to lose 20-30 lbs he needs to be on weight loss drugs for life?
Holy shite OP, quit feeling sorry for yourself, put down the fricking snacks, go outside and exercise. This isn't remotely complicated.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:17 am to TheMagicMan
In your case the risk from doing nothing is way higher than the risk of the medication.
Get on it. When you get results, reduce the dose and see how that goes, then continue to reduce until you do not need it. If you are losing the battle go back to the higher dose.
The medication will produce results, and you will actually make healthier choices. You will know you need to eat and have a slight hunger, but you wont be in the mood for Five Guys. You will just want something simple.
Get to the gym while on the meds. It is very beneficial to getting results, but it also may help change your lifestyle drastically and eventually not need the meds.
Get on it. When you get results, reduce the dose and see how that goes, then continue to reduce until you do not need it. If you are losing the battle go back to the higher dose.
The medication will produce results, and you will actually make healthier choices. You will know you need to eat and have a slight hunger, but you wont be in the mood for Five Guys. You will just want something simple.
Get to the gym while on the meds. It is very beneficial to getting results, but it also may help change your lifestyle drastically and eventually not need the meds.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:19 am to TheMagicMan
Find a plug for some Tirzepatide. It kills the food noise instantly. You will drop the weight.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:21 am to TheMagicMan
Reta....hunger cravings for shite food will disappear. Start walking routine, then on incline.
Go thru house and throw away everything that isn't a whole food. All of it.
Put calorie nutrition counting app on phone. Document every bite of whatever. And all exercise.
Within a week or 2, you'll have a much better understanding and better control of your health.
Medication will begin to not be needed
Go thru house and throw away everything that isn't a whole food. All of it.
Put calorie nutrition counting app on phone. Document every bite of whatever. And all exercise.
Within a week or 2, you'll have a much better understanding and better control of your health.
Medication will begin to not be needed
Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:25 am to TheMagicMan
Holy shite what the hell is going on here? Are we already at the point that people think it's impossible to lose weight without drugs?
If your physician told you that I would find a new one ASAP. That's a ridiculously lazy opinion and points to some kind of incentive to get as many people on weight loss drugs as possible.
You're not even that bad off. Get on a diet, get on a workout routine and you can shed that weight in a few months.
What the frick
If your physician told you that I would find a new one ASAP. That's a ridiculously lazy opinion and points to some kind of incentive to get as many people on weight loss drugs as possible.
You're not even that bad off. Get on a diet, get on a workout routine and you can shed that weight in a few months.
What the frick
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